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Forums - Nintendo - Nintendo Fans Need To Be More Realistic About Their Expectations Of Wii U/3DS

The truth is the Wii U is selling *far* worse than the GameCube, which was already a sales dissapointment for Nintendo. Enough with the willfull denial of this too -- you're on a freaking sales website, you should know better. 

I know everyone is raking Nintendo over the coals right now, but realistically how much can they be expected to support such a console? Did you really think those low sales weren't going to have a consequence down the line? 

They are supporting the Wii U well considering how big of a disaster it is. You can't realistically ask them to throw away games like the next "real" Animal Crossing, which could sell 4 million in Japan alone on the next-gen Nintendo handheld just so a small Nintendo fanbase on the Wii U can be happy and then watch it sell maybe 750k-1 million. That's just not good business. 

3DS? They have done *everything* possible for this thing including taking the decision to go into their first annual loss in 70+ years to kickstart its sales. They've given it every franchise imaginable that could've made any difference, and they've released like 4 different models of it. It continues to decline in sales YoY and isn't keeping up the annual sales rate pre-smartphone Nintendo handhelds like the GBC, GBA, and DS were. 

Even if we assume the "Thou Shall Not Release a New System Until Exactly 5 Years" rule is true, have you guys looked at a calendar lately? The 3DS will be 5 years old come Feburary 2016, that's only 8 months away. The Wii U is not that far behind either, it will be 5 years old in 2017. 

Neither of these system deserve a 6 year lifecycle either, that should only be resevered for platforms like the PS2 or DS or systems like the 360/PS3 that were still selling big numbers by their 5th year and were very much future proof tech wise. That means Nintendo has to start focusing on next-gen software now. You guys know damn well it takes usually 2 years to make a good game, sometimes up to 3 years. 



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I think it's less of a "we could sell more on x platform" and more raw numbers concerning what money Nintendo can spend and remain profitable. Nintendo clearly underestimated the money needed for HD development and with pressure from the shareholders to hit profits no matter what, Nintendo's budgets can only be so high. Smash had tons of cash tied up till end of hear last year. Same with MK8. XCX, Zelda, and SMTxFE have big budgets as well. If the Wii U had more sales and some kind of third party support, Nintendo could be more liberal with spending. I think this whole gen has suffered from this initial poor planning and lack of understanding of what they were getting into.



Nuvendil said:
I think it's less of a "we could sell more on x platform" and more raw numbers concerning what money Nintendo can spend and remain profitable. Nintendo clearly underestimated the money needed for HD development and with pressure from the shareholders to hit profits no matter what, Nintendo's budgets can only be so high. Smash had tons of cash tied up till end of hear last year. Same with MK8. XCX, Zelda, and SMTxFE have big budgets as well. If the Wii U had more sales and some kind of third party support, Nintendo could be more liberal with spending. I think this whole gen has suffered from this initial poor planning and lack of understanding of what they were getting into.


Well that's the other thing. They can't just be making like a high budget Metroid game just to make the very small Wii U userbase happy when development costs are so much higher today.

It's just not a realistic expectation. 

The moment we saw sustained poor Wii U sales, people really should have known that there was going to be a real consequence to that down the line. 

Expecting the Wii U to have the same level of support from Nintendo as say the Wii did is just not realistic. Especially when the games cost more to develop. 

But I do think they have to allocate their big IP carefully too. An Animal Crossing game takes 3 years on average to make, if they just "waste" one on the Wii U, that means the NX won't get an Animal Crossing likely until mid-cycle, which is probably not something Nintendo deems suitable. 



Animal Crossing on Wii U could easily sell 1 million in Japan alone if it was bundled



ExplodingBlock said:
Animal Crossing on Wii U could easily sell 1 million in Japan alone if it was bundled


The last console Animal Crossing only sold about 1.3 million in Japan, and that was on the Wii which had a far larger userbase than the Wii U does. 

Force bundling a game to inflate sales isn't exactly smart either, you may as well just give the game away for free to get the same result if you need to do that to hit a sales target. 



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I know i want Paper mario U, and animal crossing U, but im fine if we dont get that. JUST atleast give us a TRUE good new metroid game for either 3DS or Wii U



Its Nintendo's fault the Wii U is selling bad, they came out with it now they have to support it or risk losing gamers trust.  Gamers aren't gonna think well the Wii U is selling like shit so its okay for you to cut the support early Nintendo.



Honestly after X and Splatoon I will be content with the system. It has provided me with lots of hours of amusement. I'd have loved to get DQX and some other games, but otherwise I really like what I've seen from this generation and look forward to gen 9.



KingdomHeartsFan said:

Its Nintendo's fault the Wii U is selling bad, they came out with it now they have to support it or risk losing gamers trust.  Gamers aren't gonna think well the Wii U is selling like shit so its okay for you to cut the support early Nintendo.


Yes it's Nintendo's fault, they made many mistakes with the Wii U, but what's done is done. 

Most of the whining/complaining is coming from people who are online industry savvy and know the business more than the general consumer.

You can't realistically expect Nintendo to support the Wii U as well as the Wii or even the GameCube (which really, hate to shatter your memories, Nintendo actually abandoned with their core teams after 2004). 



Soundwave said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

Its Nintendo's fault the Wii U is selling bad, they came out with it now they have to support it or risk losing gamers trust.  Gamers aren't gonna think well the Wii U is selling like shit so its okay for you to cut the support early Nintendo.


Yes it's Nintendo's fault, they made many mistakes with the Wii U, but what's done is done. 

Most of the whining/complaining is coming from people who are online industry savvy and know the business more than the general consumer.

You can't realistically expect Nintendo to support the Wii U as well as the Wii or even the GameCube (which really, hate to shatter your memories, Nintendo actually abandoned with their core teams after 2004). 

They supported the Wii U for this long and didn't abandon it sooner so people weren't pissed off that their purchase wasn't worth it and wouldn't buy another Nintendo console.  So far I'm not anywhere near getting my moneys worth from my Wii U purchase.

I don't give a rats ass about the sales, going by that logic no one should buy another Nintendo console until it starts selling well or else it might get subpar support, oh wait but then no ones buying it and it sells like shit.