the nx will fail hard in my opinion, at least as a home console.

No matter what nintendo is doing, alot gamer will never take them serious. For them, nintendo is only for "kids". Mario and co are colourfull and thats not what they want. Simple as it is. These people dont got a wii, not a wii u not a gamecube and wont get the nx. And thats alot people.

Nintendo fans will get less and less because nintendo do so much to fck them up. Actual wii u owners are the biggest nintendo fans out there. And what is nintendo doing? Dont release any more games in 2016, dont released games in 2013, dont released games first half 2015. Thats less then 2 Years Software support to be honest. Im a big nintendo fan but im not blind. Sony and MS exclusives lineup this holilday is way better then nintendos. And they even have all the third partys support nintendo will never get. Im sure many wii u owners will switch to other consoles if nintendo really bring nx in 2016 (and it looks like that) and dont bring much more games on wii u. You shouldnt fck up your loyaliest fans nintendo.

Casual wont get the console either because they are fine with playing on tablet/smarphone. They dont have high standarts in terms of gaming. They are fine with candy crush and co.

So who will buy the nx? 

Im very sure it will flop, no matter what nintendo is doing to the system. I wont get it pretty sure, because if the nx flops nintendo will give 2 years software and make next console. Hell, ps3/xbox 360 got more games in 2015  then wii u so far and will probl even get more games in 2016. Thats ridicoulus.

Ill sell my wiiu now, as long as its worth something. Wont play xenoblade but im ok with that, ill get enough on ps4 to compensate this one game.

Hell MS/Sony got a better first party support this holiday as nintendo and they got all the third party support addional. This is ridicoulus. 

No AAA 3rd party support = flop.

Simple as that.

it won get third party support. That should be very very safe. 

Third party will only release on a sucsessfull system, and they will be carefull after the wii u flop.

And the nx wont be sucsessfull without 3rd party support.

Also everybody who want to play 3rd party games already got a ps/xbox and there will be no need for them to get a new console in 2016. Its same as on wii u.

NX won't be just one piece of hardware. It will be as many as 4 IMO.

I can see a tablet, handheld, family console (cheap), higher spec console. Iwata made a quote with a unified software ecosystem they'll be able to have many more hardware form factors. Buy which ever one suits your needs, the same way Apple doesn't just make one freaking Mac for everyone, there are choices depending on what you need (Macbook Air, Macbook, Macbook Pro, etc.).

The handheld version will launch next year in some form (tablet or handheld) and the console versions may roll out 8-12 months later. That's how I see it. 

The traditional market rules don't work for Nintendo ... so why keep adhereing to them? 

Nintendo is in a very difficult situation. After the Wii, 3rd party don't take them seriously. They don't trust Nintendo's approach to home consoles (who could have predicted the Wii? And the WiiU?). Nintendo has two options for the future.

-Follow what everyone is doing to try and get 3rd parties. Make a system more powerful than the PS4 to try and get support and compete with this gen HD twins and next gen Ultra HD twins. The problem with this are a lot. The most important is, even if Nintendo makes a system powerful and easy to develop for, other companies may still not make games for them. Imagine the WiiU debacle again: everyone proclaimed they would support the system, and in one year it was clear everyone had abandoned ship. Second, a console that costs as much as a PS4 or a XBone with half or less the support would fail, even with Nintendo fans. Third, a traditional route would mean no fusion, and that would mean competing with their handheld, probably as powerful or close as a 360 (mobile thech is really good by now), and that would be catastrophic for the home console.

-Do whatever Nintendo wants. Ignore the majority of third parties. Make the console Nintendo wants, cheap for the market, even if it's underpowered. 3rd parties won't even look at it, but Nintendo can compensate by developing a lot of games from the beginning and fast. Buy studios and grow big enough to support the console almost on its entirety. If Nintendo want to fuse home consoles and handhelds, let them do it. A couple of well chosen 3rd parties and a virtual console strong from the beginning (from NES to WiiU/3DS). Nintendo would really need to create more IPs to compensate the lack of 3rd party (more Splatoon and less S.T.E.A.M.). Invest part of that Wii/DS money sitting on the bank. This would be the more risky route, sure. But it would be the one that would pay off the most.

Neither option is perfect, both have a real risk of failing horribly, but with their home consoles underpowered and unpopular and the handheld market devoured by mobile, they don't have that much choice.

So change the rules. Stop making 1 console that's supposed to make everyone happy, it's not 1985 anymore. Make different models of the NX and let the consumer choose which they want. 

not sure if this will work. We got the 8GB and 32 Gb wii u which at least goes in the same direction (8gb cheaper for casuals, 32gb more expensive for hardcores) but it doesnt worked well. 

Im sure it doesnt matter what nintendo is doing, their image is bad and they dont have the capabilieties to support their system enough to compensate the lack of third party.

One big third party publisher (like Square enix) showed more aaa games as nintendo. If one publisher is even better then you, how will you win against all of them?

Also nintendo have enough money to make the wii u still a sucsess. Get alot exclusives deals, bring the AAA 3rd on the system (pay of them) and more. But they decided not to do so.

They will get third party support if they go the multiple device ecosystem approach. 

Because Japanese developers will support it just to get their games on the Nintendo handheld if nothing else, but all those games will then also be playable on the home version. 

And Square-Enix will support it too. 

They should change the rules of the game. Just because they've done things a certain way for 30 years doesn't mean it was going to be done that way forever. 

I think their best bet is to making a bleeding edge portable ... 600 GFLOPS or so. Then make a cheap, family console version. And then a higher end home version that's more powerful than the PS4 that runs games at 1080P. 

Games scale up and down, but they are playable on all devices. No more Mario 3D Land and Mario 3D World, there is just one Mario 3D game and it works on both. 

Third parties would support the Wii U if it had the 3DS' userbase (50+ million), but the 3DS has the userbase but doesn't have the hardware power. Wii U has OK hardware power but doesn't have the userbase. Unified platform solves this problem. 

well alot companies said there games are not even possible on weak hardware. Like pCars on Wii u. Or witcher 3 on 7th gen.

So im not sure if this scaling really would work. Also all games would ned to be optimized for each hardware, which make development harder and more expensive. Something nintendo shouldnt want.