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Your Thoughts On B/C

You're Wrong, Game Changer! 94 23.50%
 
You're Right, Not That Big A Deal 186 46.50%
 
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The only way backwards compatibility is useful to me is if you skipped an entire console generation. When I first heard ps2 was going to be backwards compatible it blew my mind, but in practice I used it once to play ffvii again and I didn't even play through the first disc, and even then only because I didn't have access to my ps1 because it was in a different state at the time.



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I have a hard time taking it seriously after the 360's crash-happy backwards compatibility. Initially I thought this might convince people to trade in their old console towards a cheaper new One, but that sounds like an awfully limited number of titles. Eh, we'll see how it goes. I still think the best way to play your old games is to just keep your old systems.



Vasto said:
Lets be real here. What if Sony would have announced BC? We would not have this thread.

Yes, let's be real.  If Sony had announced B/C, non-MS fans would have had a little laugh at the expense of MS fans for making such a big deal about it.  Then, Sony fans would say it's an awesome feature and MS fans would stop talking about it like it was a big megaton and helped them win E3.

pbroy said:
Actually this breaths new life into the 360 library. It's a good way for publishers to make a few extra bucks from their already made software or make it more enticing for selling their newer games. Some companies are already using it to sell their future games by offering their older games for free. So, this announcement is a big deal. It's consumer friendly and devs can gain from it too. It's not the concept of BC that is being questioned here, it is the way that it is being used.

PS3 with BC didn't sell because the console cost way too freaking much. The day that they announced they were removing BC, I ran out to buy one before I couldn't get one anymore. Believe me, everyone would have loved for BC to remain.

People just end up accepting what their Gods do, even if it's not exactly what they want, in the end. Why, because of loyalty. Some Gods take away and it's ok to their people. Some Gods give and it's loved by their followers, but talked bad about by their rivals to make it look like not such a good thing. Who loses? The ones that fill their hearts with envy and hate, when someone else gains something good.

Bold #1 - Companies have already been doing this.  Only they are giving away actual remasters for cheap or free.  Or they are games from the same franchise from earlier in the same gen.

Bold #2 - And the Wii U, which had B/C with last gen's winner, and wasn't incredbly expensive?  In either example, it doesn't matter.  Nice feature, but nowhere near the main selling point.  And those were almost full B/C, not the limited kind MS is doing.

And you shouldn't really worship your console like that. 



thismeintiel said:
Vasto said:
Lets be real here. What if Sony would have announced BC? We would not have this thread.

Yes, let's be real.  If Sony had announced B/C, non-MS fans would have had a little laugh at the expense of MS fans for making such a big deal about it.  Then, Sony fans would say it's an awesome feature and MS fans would stop talking about it like it was a big megaton and helped them win E3.

pbroy said:
Actually this breaths new life into the 360 library. It's a good way for publishers to make a few extra bucks from their already made software or make it more enticing for selling their newer games. Some companies are already using it to sell their future games by offering their older games for free. So, this announcement is a big deal. It's consumer friendly and devs can gain from it too. It's not the concept of BC that is being questioned here, it is the way that it is being used.

PS3 with BC didn't sell because the console cost way too freaking much. The day that they announced they were removing BC, I ran out to buy one before I couldn't get one anymore. Believe me, everyone would have loved for BC to remain.

People just end up accepting what their Gods do, even if it's not exactly what they want, in the end. Why, because of loyalty. Some Gods take away and it's ok to their people. Some Gods give and it's loved by their followers, but talked bad about by their rivals to make it look like not such a good thing. Who loses? The ones that fill their hearts with envy and hate, when someone else gains something good.

Bold #1 - Companies have already been doing this.  Only they are giving away actual remasters for cheap or free.  Or they are games from the same franchise from earlier in the same gen.

Bold #2 - And the Wii U, which had B/C with last gen's winner, and wasn't incredbly expensive?  In either example, it doesn't matter.  Nice feature, but nowhere near the main selling point.  And those were almost full B/C, not the limited kind MS is doing.

And you shouldn't really worship your console like that. 

 

Thanks for the clarification.



It's too late. I already got rid of most of my 360 games, only kept the ones the kids can play. I guess I can replay Viva Pinata on XBox One when the time comes. Yet my 360 still works so why bother downloading it and taking up space on the hdd?

Knowing my kids, they ignore the digital library and always want to get into my game shelves to play what box looks cool, or play with a different controller or machine.

It's good for the second hand market anyway. And if you need a refurbished 360, people can get rid of their old ones now.



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thismeintiel said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Idk of anyone here saying it's maybe going to win MS the sales battle. It's simply an awesome and free feature for those who already own or will own the console in the future.

By this logic, nothing Sony showed last night was a megaton or a "gamechanger". PS4 sold a lot more before those reveals and it will sell a lot more afterwards. Please stop being excited. Mods please edit titles for the relevant threads.

Sony showed 3 true megatons.  Games that people thought would either never be developed or were vaporware.  PS4 is going to be the only home console to play Shenmue 3, TLG, SF5 (we already knew about this, but it was set in stone just before this E3), and, if the gaf insider is right, FF7 Remake.  A remake of the highest selling FF game ever.  Sure, it may not be exactly "game changing," but Sony doesn't need the game changed.  They were, however, megatons that will help increase the PS4's lead.

I'm sorry, but B/C does not compare to that.  Not in the least.  Unless you think Sony announcing B/C for PS3 at E2005 or Nintendo announcing B/C for Wii U at E3 2011 were megatons.  Cause I'll tell you, they weren't treated as such.  Now, all of a sudden MS is doing it almost 2 years after launch and it's "OMG, MEGATONZ!!" 

You are right that it is a nice feature (if they can get it working correctly and with many more games), but in the long run, it really changes nothing.  Someone who wants a PS4 more than a XBO won't be swayed by this.


Exactly, Sony doesnt need the game changed. This isnt going to change sales for Sony, so theres (by your own logic) no reason to call them megatons (let alone "true" megatons LOL), no reason to be excited about them, theyre no big deal. Thanka for confirming this for us. Again, please dont be excited. I have no interest in watching you move the goal posts to defend your double standard, have fun.



cheshirescat said:
The only way backwards compatibility is useful to me is if you skipped an entire console generation. When I first heard ps2 was going to be backwards compatible it blew my mind, but in practice I used it once to play ffvii again and I didn't even play through the first disc, and even then only because I didn't have access to my ps1 because it was in a different state at the time.


Tbh when this gen started I dont think I cared about BC but I gave my last gen consoles away to younger family members and missed out on a lot of great games over the last couple years. There are lots of good 360 games I would gladly buy.

 

Digitally owned games carrying over is a huge deal, too. 



Vasto said:
Lets be real here. What if Sony would have announced BC? We would not have this thread.


If Sony did it they would be herald, "pro consumer."

But this is MS being pro consumer so the spin is last gen games don't matter.



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Exactly, Sony doesnt need the game changed. This isnt going to change sales for Sony, so theres (by your own logic) no reason to call them megatons (let alone "true" megatons LOL), no reason to be excited about them, theyre no big deal. Thanka for confirming this for us. Again, please dont be excited. I have no interest in watching you move the goal posts to defend your double standard, have fun.

I'm just going to end this discussion with the fact that I'm not the one with double standards here.



Backward compatibility would have been a bigger deal at launch, you know. Back when most of the launch games looks last gen anyways and the Libraries were tiny.

BC 2 years in? Who cares besides people looking for a reason to be excited about their console of choice.



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