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Azzanation said:
kitler53 said:


A) because they are xbox's only showings.

B) dead rising, ryse, d4, pvz, tomb raiders,... all games announced as "exclusvises" that weren't exclusive.   but hey, maybe this year is the year that exclusive actually means exculsive.  but seeing has win 10 seemed to be the theme of the show,.. seeing how killer instinct and gears remaster joined the list of "exclusives" coming to pc.  seeing as gears 4 and master chief collection was hinted at as coming to pc.   ...i kind of doubt it.    your list will be whittle down to halo 5 by this time next year just like last years list was whittled down and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that....


You have missed my point completely. It doesnt matter if console games go to PC becuase PC and Consoles dont compete with each other. Sonys best showing were from 3rd party titles, Xboxs best showing was there 1st party. Dont get me wrong they showed some great games and UC4 and Horizon look amazing but Shemue 3, FF7, No Mans Sky and many others are the talking points at Sonys. While Gears 4 and Rares games are the talking points at Xboxs etc. Big difference.

Really? So this comment of yours means something else?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7366435 

But anyways since when do exclusives mean less if is done by a third party? That is still like 10 games that you wont be able to play on xbox platmorms. 



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By the way, anecdotal evidence, of course. Shinobi just did a poll online for 'personal favorite' of E3 thus far. The response was overwhelmingly Horizon.



All I see is denial. For that no amount of patience and explaining will solve.



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Azzanation said:
kitler53 said:


A) because they are xbox's only showings.

B) dead rising, ryse, d4, pvz, tomb raiders,... all games announced as "exclusvises" that weren't exclusive.   but hey, maybe this year is the year that exclusive actually means exculsive.  but seeing has win 10 seemed to be the theme of the show,.. seeing how killer instinct and gears remaster joined the list of "exclusives" coming to pc.  seeing as gears 4 and master chief collection was hinted at as coming to pc.   ...i kind of doubt it.    your list will be whittle down to halo 5 by this time next year just like last years list was whittled down and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that....


You have missed my point completely. It doesnt matter if console games go to PC becuase PC and Consoles dont compete with each other. Sonys best showing were from 3rd party titles, Xboxs best showing was there 1st party. Dont get me wrong they showed some great games and UC4 and Horizon look amazing but Shemue 3, FF7, No Mans Sky and many others are the talking points at Sonys. While Gears 4 and Rares games are the talking points at Xboxs etc. Big difference.

 

Azzanation said:
I think the problem is the best PS4 games are actually timed or multiplats. Games like No Mans Sky, FF7, SF5 and Shenmue 3 are games that were really the shows highlights yet aren't exclusive compared to there competition which had there best games exclusives. UC4, Dreams and Horizon are great exclusives but arent enough, as for The Last Guardian, I don't see it being any good and games like Rigs, Star Ocean 5, Persona 5, Nier 2 and Final Fantasy Worlds aren't really system sellers and I can see these games heading to Steam at some point. This E3 was great for both Sony and MS but still need to see more 1st party games.

 

so we've gone full 180 here.  now i see why you're such a fan of xbox.

 

and lulz at trying to play it like uncharted, horizon, and the last guardian weren't talking points from sony's conference.  i guess the real problem is with sony's conference there are so many talking points that people are loosing track of all of them.



eva01beserk said:
Azzanation said:


You have missed my point completely. It doesnt matter if console games go to PC becuase PC and Consoles dont compete with each other. Sonys best showing were from 3rd party titles, Xboxs best showing was there 1st party. Dont get me wrong they showed some great games and UC4 and Horizon look amazing but Shemue 3, FF7, No Mans Sky and many others are the talking points at Sonys. While Gears 4 and Rares games are the talking points at Xboxs etc. Big difference.

Really? So this comment of yours means something else?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7366435 

But anyways since when do exclusives mean less if is done by a third party? That is still like 10 games that you wont be able to play on xbox platmorms. 


Well considering X1 will soon be able to play last gen titles for free, then there are alot of titles you cant play on your PS4 aswell plus the main Xbox exclusives. On paper there are more games only on XB1 then there are on PS4 thanks to last generations library so i wouldnt want to be comparing that since PS4 you have to pay for them via streaming. The best games shown at Xbox are Xbox games, not 3rd party timed exclusives. FF7 even back in the days was also a PC game. Its not home to anything and thats the best thing that came out of Sony. I am not saying there wasnt anything good, Sony showed some great games but so did Xbox, only difference is FF7 and its timed. To me they both tied, i dont count 3rd party timed or multiplat games as a deciding factor since both consoles and PCs end up with them anyway. I do the same for Xbox, i am not including Tomb Raider since its Timed aswell. I am going by in house company games and franchises.



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onionberry said:
SWORDF1SH said:
 
greatness awaits tho

Seen this used a lot to try and say the PS4 doesn't already have greatness and people saying or using memes with the words "still waiting" etc.

Never really made sense since the wording means the console already has greatness and that's what you have in store. If their slogan was "await greatness" then fine. But although it's just swapping two words they have entirely different meanings :D :p

All opinions of course and you are entitled to say what you want, just say something that makes sense instead of trying to turn their slogan against them that doesn't really work.

it works with me because I'm waiting, so greatness awaits. And yes I'm entitled to say what I want just like you're entitled to be offended.

Don't say I'm offended because I pointed something out. Not saying that you said it to play down the ps4 but using you as an example of people not getting what "greatness awaits " means. 

 

I don't think you understood what I'm saying. Example would be "candy awaits" you at the candy store. The candy is already there. You wouldn't walk in and say "waiting for candy".

 

Whether you think the console is great or not is irrelevant. 



Azzanation said:
eva01beserk said:

Really? So this comment of yours means something else?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7366435 

But anyways since when do exclusives mean less if is done by a third party? That is still like 10 games that you wont be able to play on xbox platmorms. 


Well considering X1 will soon be able to play last gen titles for free, then there are alot of titles you cant play on your PS4 aswell plus the main Xbox exclusives. On paper there are more games only on XB1 then there are on PS4 thanks to last generations library so i wouldnt want to be comparing that since PS4 you have to pay for them via streaming. The best games shown at Xbox are Xbox games, not 3rd party timed exclusives. FF7 even back in the days was also a PC game. Its not home to anything and thats the best thing that came out of Sony. I am not saying there wasnt anything good, Sony showed some great games but so did Xbox, only difference is FF7 and its timed. To me they both tied, i dont count 3rd party timed or multiplat games as a deciding factor since both consoles and PCs end up with them anyway. I do the same for Xbox, i am not including Tomb Raider since its Timed aswell. I am going by in house company games and franchises.

Have fun moving that goalpost buddy.



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Azzanation said:
I think the problem is the best PS4 games are actually timed or multiplats. Games like No Mans Sky, FF7, SF5 and Shenmue 3 are games that were really the shows highlights yet aren't exclusive compared to there competition which had there best games exclusives. UC4, Dreams and Horizon are great exclusives but arent enough,(1) as for The Last Guardian, I don't see it being any good and games like Rigs, Star Ocean 5, Persona 5, Nier 2 and Final Fantasy Worlds aren't really system sellers and I can see these games heading to Steam at some point. This E3 was great for both Sony and MS but still need to see more 1st party games.

You have missed my point completely. It doesnt matter if console games go to PC becuase PC and Consoles dont compete with each other. Sonys best showing were from 3rd party titles,(2) Xboxs best showing was there 1st party. Dont get me wrong they showed some great games and UC4 and Horizon look amazing but Shemue 3, FF7, No Mans Sky and many others are the talking points at Sonys. While Gears 4 and Rares games are the talking points at Xboxs etc. Big difference.


1. What makes you say this?

2. Understandably, none of the big 3rd party plublishers want to associate themselves with Xbox, (I am talking to you Activision).

On another note.

Numbers taken from this thread.

Halo 5, Gears 4, Forza Motorsport 6, Sea of Thieves, Rare Replay, Fable Legend & ReCore = 3.336.137 views on Youtube (7 games)

The Last Guardian, Uncharted 4: A Thief's End & Horizon: Zero Dawn = 4.939.165 views on Youtube (3 games)

I think you are overestimating Halo, Forza & Gears popularity.






DonFerrari said:
All I see is denial. For that no amount of patience and explaining will solve.

This.

When I found out that some people are deliberately ignoring everything that doesn't fit their agenda, I stopped trying to explain anything.



Mike_L said:
DonFerrari said:
All I see is denial. For that no amount of patience and explaining will solve.

This.

When I found out that some people are deliberately ignoring everything that doesn't fit their agenda, I stopped trying to explain anything.

I can genuinely understand someone not liking any Sony first party or thinking any ms exclusive is better (even the really small).

 

But to complete deny their existance and quality or to say that MS yearly or semi-yearly (that end up showing in all e3) games had a bigger impact takes an amount of crazy talk that I have trouble believing it isn't of ill intent.



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