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Marketing 259 26.84%
 
Fantastic games 207 21.45%
 
Big N and MS need to do a better job 296 30.67%
 
Cultists fans 92 9.53%
 
More mainstream 111 11.50%
 
Total:965
Goodnightmoon said:
ethomaz said:
They did everything right...

Hardware, games, publishers, marketing deals, dev supports, SDKs, etc... etc... etc.

It is the best machine by a long way this generation.

Xbox one: Better exclusives on 2014, more better exclusives on 2015, shares the 95% of Ps4 games. It only has like a 15% less of performance in multiplatforms, Is cheaper.

WiiU: Best exclusives of the generation. 

Ps4: eh... 1080P, Best console ever.


Good job in trying to make your opinion as fact but It can also be spin in a different way you know, here is how I see it.

Wii U: few exclusives worth playing, no third party support = poor to average overall library + too expensive for what it has = it deserved the sales it has.

PS4: few exclusives worth buying, excellent third party support (which are the real selling point between the masses)= better overall library than Wii U.

As much as you want to think that third parties doesn't count, people look at the overall console library which by looking at the multiplatform sales, ps4 is the place to play those games.  That maybe you don't like third parties games or see them as bad games, it doesn't matter, what really matter is what the masses want.

xbox: has better games overall but nobody ask them to try to pull the DRM fiasco that nobody asked for.  Now people got afraid that they might do it again.

Criticize playstation all you want but at least in the console space, they have deliver in every generation.  Even with the ps vita they at least tried but the sales of the games were poorly. it won't happen with ps4.  And again the most important thing is the overall library which include both first parties + third parties.

Wii U might have better exclusives than ps4 but overall which is what really matter, ps4 > Wii U.



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marsoRa said:
BraLoD said:


Really.

Feel free to look for the last threads one that is about PS4 x X1 about the quality in their games.

Not only the PS4 has ter better version of almost every multiplat game, but it also have more games available at a higher average score, keeping in mind that as the number grows the average is bound to drop as there simply won't be more games pushing for high scores than games pushing to average scores, at it should be, and even so it still averages above the XBO.

It's not only my opinion but a general consensus between all the media that gamerankings cover.

"no indies, full games" please stop this thing, it makes you look bad, seriously, specially the later (even as the indie party is also silly), wtf would be a not full game, a demo? Why would you feel the need to even mention it? 

And no third party is beyond stupidity as exclusivity happens a lot within it as well.

Good search buddy.

Did I talk about Xbox One? did i tell you to compare them? No right, i told you give me 10  games, well and I see you cant give me them cant you.
Your talking about ''scores'' well nintendo whips the ass if it's about scores. come on give me 10 games, and you really think I should give it this makes me look bad, It's internet boy/girl I don't care, i just want my question to be answered


LOL, feel free to believe what suits you better.

I won't give anything to you because of two reasons:

1. As you just said, you are an internet boy/girl and I don't care.

2. I could care, but you invent conditions and ask me to do a thing I've never said or pointed I would, there is simply no reason to me to do it to you, really.

Hope you pay attention to the post just above yours, as GribbleGrunger was cool enough to find the threads I pointed you should visit and post'em all here, that can help you answer your own question, you should thank him for it.



The PS4 is succeeding for several reasons:

- Lower launch price than the XBO. Price does mean a lot, and all things being equal the cheaper system should have the advantage. The XBO is now cheaper than the PS4, but it was too little too late and the price reductions have not cause a rebound in sales momentum (plus Xbox seems to have a growth problem).
- MS making big mistakes with bad PR and the initial push for always-online. The initial announcement was bad, E3 brought the news that the XBO would require an online connection with daily check-ins required (something totally unnecessary and unwanted), and Orth and Mattrick putting their feet in their mouth just rubbed salt in the wound.
- PlayStation's indomitable brand strength in Europe. Xbox is largely irrelevant outside the U.S., UK, and other Anglosphere nations. Continental Europe will always prefer PlayStation above all others, and Japan simply doesn't care about Xbox. PlayStation is simply a stronger global brand than Xbox.

The XBO is holding its own against the PS4 remarkably well in the U.S., with the PS4 having sold only 10% more units so far than the XBO (though it's not likely to last once the PS4 gets its first price cut; the PS4 will likely increase its lead after that point). But Europe and Japan are lost causes for MS, and you can't win globally by doing well in only one region.



Angelv577 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Xbox one: Better exclusives on 2014, more better exclusives on 2015, shares the 95% of Ps4 games. It only has like a 15% less of performance in multiplatforms, Is cheaper.

WiiU: Best exclusives of the generation. 

Ps4: eh... 1080P, Best console ever.

 


Good job in trying to make your opinion as fact but It can also be spin in a different way you know, here is how I see it.

Wii U: few exclusives worth playing, no third party support = poor to average overall library + too expensive for what it has = it deserved the sales it has.

PS4: few exclusives worth buying, excellent third party support (which are the real selling point between the masses)= better overall library than Wii U.

As much as you want to think that third parties doesn't count, people look at the overall console library which by looking at the multiplatform sales, ps4 is the place to play those games.  That maybe you don't like third parties games or see them as bad games, it doesn't matter, what really matter is what the masses want.

xbox: has better games overall but nobody ask them to try to pull the DRM fiasco that nobody asked for.  Now people got afraid that they might do it again.

Criticize playstation all you want but at least in the console space, they have deliver in every generation.  Even with the ps vita they at least tried but the sales of the games were poorly. it won't happen with ps4.  And again the most important thing is the overall library which include both first parties + third parties.

Wii U might have better exclusives than ps4 but overall which is what really matter, ps4 > Wii U.

My point wasn´t that WiiU is a better console though, but calling PS4 "The best console by a long way" is just ... absurd imo

The console doesn´t do anything better than XBO, is just a bit more powerfull.... how can be the best by a long shot? All the problems with XBO at first don´t exists anymore, they share 95% of multiplatforms and xbo has more quality exclusives.

So ps4 is not the one with better exclusives (that´s wiiu) and it´s not the best balanced between exclusives/multiplatforms/price.... so how can be "the best console by a long way"?

I wasn´t saying that the console was bad per se or something like that.



People bought the empty hype.

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The PS4 is winning because of Sony's arrogance.

Sony is also winning not because they did everything right. Nah. That can never be it. They're winning because the others have messed up. Not because Sony has any merit or made a product people actually want.

If there is any other reason that removes any merit from Sony and put the blame on the competition... That reason too.




Goodnightmoon said:
Angelv577 said:

 


Good job in trying to make your opinion as fact but It can also be spin in a different way you know, here is how I see it.

Wii U: few exclusives worth playing, no third party support = poor to average overall library + too expensive for what it has = it deserved the sales it has.

PS4: few exclusives worth buying, excellent third party support (which are the real selling point between the masses)= better overall library than Wii U.

As much as you want to think that third parties doesn't count, people look at the overall console library which by looking at the multiplatform sales, ps4 is the place to play those games.  That maybe you don't like third parties games or see them as bad games, it doesn't matter, what really matter is what the masses want.

xbox: has better games overall but nobody ask them to try to pull the DRM fiasco that nobody asked for.  Now people got afraid that they might do it again.

Criticize playstation all you want but at least in the console space, they have deliver in every generation.  Even with the ps vita they at least tried but the sales of the games were poorly. it won't happen with ps4.  And again the most important thing is the overall library which include both first parties + third parties.

Wii U might have better exclusives than ps4 but overall which is what really matter, ps4 > Wii U.

My point wasn´t that WiiU is a better console though, but calling PS4 "The best console by a long way" is just ... absurd imo

The console doesn´t do anything better than XBO, is just a bit more powerfull.... how can be the best by a long shot? All the problems with XBO at first don´t exists anymore, they share 95% of multiplatforms and xbo has more quality exclusives.

So ps4 is not the one with better exclusives (that´s wiiu) and it´s not the best balanced between exclusives/multiplatforms/price.... so how can be "the best console by a long way"?

I wasn´t saying that the console was bad per se or something like that.

"Ps4: eh... 1080P, Best console ever".

By looking at this all I see is that you were trying to imply that ps4 doesn't have anything on it to sell the console which is completely false.  Now nobody can say  that ps4 is the best console by a long shot as a fact but there are also reason why ps4 is selling great that goes beyond marketing and those reasons are backed up by 3 generations before it. 

As you can see in my previous post, as of now, I accepted that xbox one has the better overall library of games but the sales of the console were affected by their early decisions, never intended to say that ps4 is better than xbox one, only explained to you why it hasn't sell in the same way ps4 is selling.






some people cant stand to see the PS4 on top and its hilarious



Ryudo said:
People bought the empty hype.


Could you say anything that's more baseless than that? Playstation consoles consistently dominate their gens. That's not because of "hype" but because sony consistently makes quality consoles and has the most diverse game libraries. 



How is anyone here supposed to know if Sony themselves have no idea?