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JWeinCom said:
ohmylanta1003 said:


But by saying common sense, he's indirectly saying that anyone that thinks otherwise is stupid. What he should have said is that it makes sense to HIM.


I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I don't think that's what he meant.  I believe he meant that it is abundantly obvious, and any rational person should be able to see it, not that it's just his interpretation.  If that idea is offensive to other people, so be it, but if that's his opinion which the topic was asking for (again don't want to shove words in his mouth) I can't think of a clearer way to express it.


I know what he meant. But by saying it that way, it comes off as "I'm better than you and if you don't see it my way you're an idiot". To avoid any conflict, he should have said that it makes sense to HIM, which is what I said earlier. But he wanted to say it the first way, which I would consider a potshot.



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I'm an atheist because of a little thing called logic.



I simply don't see sufficient evidence to make a supernatural deity believable.

I'm not closed to the possibility of one, but at this point it's like asking me why I don't believe Wii U will outsell the PS4; sure, it's not impossible, but the data at hand suggests it's remote enough to be safely discounted.

I'd happily change my tone if the heavens parted and God presented himself, but failing that, there's just too many plot holes in the concept of an all knowing, all powerful overseer for me.



Atheism is a default position so I don't really consider it a path as it is really just the absence of the belief in a god.

Rather than having reason's for being an Atheist, I think the important question is why do people believe in a god in the first place?



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Most organized religion carry too many similarities with cults. Dietary restrictions, moral obligations, money/food donations, social restrictions, relationship restrictions... And most of these rules are completely arbitrary, often carried over from archaic times when they made more sense.

Then there's the "I'm absolutely right and there's no fucking way I'm wrong, even though I was never involved in the aforementioned events or alive during them" attitude. It's insufferable, and even more so from religions like Christianity. It's not even the most commonly believed religion, yet they believe that they're right and everyone else is wrong, including the most popular religion, Islam.

But Islam isn't innocent, either. Between Islam and Christianity, I'm about ready to stab the next person who tries to convert me. I'm not a mindless thrall for someone to program, I am a person with his own thoughts and beliefs. At least Hinduism doesn't believe in suggested conversion, they believe everyone will eventually job the right religion (which is, if course, Hinduism).

And finally, there's way too much overlapping to be multiple different religions. Something real happened all those years ago, and I'm not saying it was aliens (it was aliens), but something that primitive man couldn't explain was happening all the time. Something else happened, and taking all of those religious texts written by complete morons literally only makes people look dumb.



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Why are you theist? why do you constantly believe in fairy-tales?
Atheist is when you are lacking faith and belief, and you trust yourself to the truth.
There is no subjective truth, there is only one truth even if we can't understand it, and we are brave enough to admitt we don't know everything, but we don't pretend to know either.
Science is the search for the truth, wether you believe in it or not. We are always at the drawingboard trying to find new discoveries or else there would be no science.
It simple that we have found an understanding that religion is outdated, and religion will keep us from advancing.
Science isn't greedy, science isn't about forcing anything on people. you are still free to believe cause i believe that freedom of speech is an valuable choice for everyone. Why did you ask the question? This is a gaming/sale related web-site. Religion or none-religion *Theist and atheist shouldn't matter* Atheism encourage study and research, so good luck. My advice: Fact's and belief are two complete concept's so don't be insulted. You are encouraged to believe, we are encouraged to seek out our curiosity. We just don't believe in anything without any evidence, that's all and the bible or eye-witness testimony isn't enough to sway me over.
Believe what you want, but you can't really claim *faith* to be right, cause faith can be everything while there is only one truth and we don't know everything about the truth, which is why we are still seeking for it, to be proven wrong doesn't hurt us at all.

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Azuren said:
Most organized religion carry too many similarities with cults. Dietary restrictions, moral obligations, money/food donations, social restrictions, relationship restrictions... And most of these rules are completely arbitrary, often carried over from archaic times when they made more sense.

Then there's the "I'm absolutely right and there's no fucking way I'm wrong, even though I was never involved in the aforementioned events or alive during them" attitude. It's insufferable, and even more so from religions like Christianity. It's not even the most commonly believed religion, yet they believe that they're right and everyone else is wrong, including the most popular religion, Islam.

But Islam isn't innocent, either. Between Islam and Christianity, I'm about ready to stab the next person who tries to convert me. I'm not a mindless thrall for someone to program, I am a person with his own thoughts and beliefs. At least Hinduism doesn't believe in suggested conversion, they believe everyone will eventually job the right religion (which is, if course, Hinduism).

And finally, there's way too much overlapping to be multiple different religions. Something real happened all those years ago, and I'm not saying it was aliens (it was aliens), but something that primitive man couldn't explain was happening all the time. Something else happened, and taking all of those religious texts written by complete morons literally only makes people look dumb.


Just an FYI, christianity is the most widely followed religion, not Islam.



SlayerRondo said:

Rather than having reason's for being an Atheist, I think the important question is why do people believe in a god in the first place?

The best answer for why there is belief in the supernatural, afterlife, and god is the fear of death. 



As many people here already said, it's not that I chose to be an atheist, I just don't care about religion at all. It doesn't make sense to me in believing a God/Deity exists, there's no proof at all that they exist, and from my point of view it's just a way of hiding that we're all gonna die and that's it for us. With that said, I do respect people's beliefs, everyone has the liberty of choosing to believe in something or not.

EDIT: Also, I've always hated to go to church when I was younger, so not having to go there because I don't believe in god is a plus to me.



sc94597 said:
SlayerRondo said:

Rather than having reason's for being an Atheist, I think the important question is why do people believe in a god in the first place?

The best answer for why there is belief in the supernatural, afterlife, and god is the fear of death. 

I would say that is the number one reason why people want to believe in the existence of a god rather than a reason to believe in the existence of a god.

It's sad that people will suspend reason and common sense when it comes to the question of religion more than anything else. I used to think like this using the flimsiest of reasons to keep believing is the Christian god and not caring about an honest evaluation of the truth of my belief.

There are really smart people I know that come off as reasonable 99% of the time but when it comes to religion they seem to throw reason and common sense out the window.



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