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tbone51 on 24 April 2015
Materia-Blade said:
Snesboy said:
teigaga said:
Isn't he charging for Lucas and Mewtwo?

Isn't Lucas a useless clone of Ness?

Only in brawl. did you notice this is a different game?

Lucas wasnt a clone in that game as well. 

They share close movement(s) (air speed/run speed/falling speed/etc), Specials but that act differently, and very very few atks.

They are very different^



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tbone51 on 24 April 2015
Wright said:

Yeah, I agree with Sakurai. Fire Emblem: Awakening's DLCs are the most obnoxious examples of this shady practice!


Since im a Nintendo fan im obligated to have to defend this....

 

Yeah tht dlc was overpriced, Whelp cant say anything else.

Hopefully DLC in FE:if is much better!



teigaga on 24 April 2015
Snesboy said:
teigaga said:
Isn't he charging for Lucas and Mewtwo?

Isn't Lucas a useless clone of Ness?

Not quite, they share 50% of each others move set though. Lucas was completely overpowered in Brawl, so the furthest thing from useless >:)



potato_hamster on 24 April 2015
tbone51 said:

Just sounds like another "i wont buy a wiiu (or any other HW) intill its $99" debate.

I get what you mean about not being any worth to you, If something isnt worth the time because a person doesn't like the game/etc thats their opinion and everyone has to except it! If i cant stand fighting games at all, does that mean all fighting games arent worth $40-$60 price tag? Of course not. 

Its kinda hard to argue this argument, i dont think i can literally say wat i want to say correctly... So srry but i guess we'll agree to disagree here!

Everything else i'll end it here because we wont get anywhere unfortunately...

Well its quite simple really.

Are the DLC multiplayer map packs for Call of Duty that are 2-3 maps that cost $15 worth $15?



tbone51 on 24 April 2015
teigaga said:
Snesboy said:
teigaga said:
Isn't he charging for Lucas and Mewtwo?

Isn't Lucas a useless clone of Ness?

Not quite, they share 50% of each others move set though. Lucas was completely overpowered in Brawl, so the furthest thing from useless >:)


More like 20%^ and out of those 20%, 18% have different properties :0



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teigaga on 24 April 2015
Metroid33slayer said:
Goodnightmoon said:


After doing a game with 54 fighters on it lol

Killer instinct on xbox one only had 8 fighters at launch lol. The upcoming season two DLC has as many characters as the original game so they sold half a game on launch day.

Wasn't that the point? It wasn't a full price game. 

A 14 roster($19.99) constantly expanding Smash Bros game at launch would have done wonders for Wii U. Just saying.... I like my experiences whole but I think multiplayer games are a bit different (there being no story or cohesive world) and I actually wouldn't mind a gradual rollout if the next smash launch on day one for the NX. With a ($49.99) season package for the rest of the games life.



DolPhanTendo on 24 April 2015
potato_hamster said:

He has different tastes than me! How foolish is that? I feel bad for the guy. Give me a break. I see the appeal, it's just not my taste. Awful, I know!

My argument is that Nintendo fans (not all) tend to be heavy Nintendo apologists. They will scathe companies for acting a certain way, and defend Nintendo for nearly the exact same behavior. DLC is DLC. You might find Nintendo's version a bit more palatable thus far (and that mostly comes from the appeal the games and the DLC has for you) but that doesn't make it any "less bad".

My argument about worth is not a bit silly. Have you ever seen a game come out, thought about buying it, but waiting until it was on sale for a lower price before buying it? Congrats! Unless you were unable to afford it at the time, you've just voted with your wallet that that game you just purchased was not worth the release price to you, because otherwise you would have bought it at release.  I don't like Smash Bros. Assuming I had a Wii U, and someone offered me Smash Bros Wii U for $20, I would not buy it off them, because it is not worth $20 to me. What's so hard to understand? Why does this seem silly to you?


Let me agree with you on your last paragraph because you are 100 percent accurate on that. If you do not see worth in game,like me with FPS, than there is no need to waste money on it that is your opinion and should be respected.

Your first argument is absolute wrong though,DLC is DLC, here is why. DLC is only reasonable for games like CoD, Battlefield, MarioKart, Smash, etc. Games with online multiplayer to keep gameplay fresh, I get that. However; buying a fucking 60 dollar game to find out you need a special DLC pack to properly finish the game is horseshit and greed based idea and you know it. This is why AAA third parties should not have control making video games or more and more of this shady shit will happen. So just because Nintendo says this now everyone who has problem with Nintendo now thinks it is okay to pay 60 dollar game that is unfinished? I do not see how blind hate can make people think being screwed is okay



QUAKECore89 on 24 April 2015

Well people, you're all against a wrong guy, he's only directing lol.

Ask Nintendo. x'D



garywood on 24 April 2015

We need to separate the nonsense scam DLC from the expansion packs. Expansion packs used to be great because you knew they had to be of a certain quality and amount of content to justify a hard cody release.



potato_hamster on 24 April 2015
DolPhanTendo said:


Let me agree with you on your last paragraph because you are 100 percent accurate on that. If you do not see worth in game,like me with FPS, than there is no need to waste money on it that is your opinion and should be respected.

Your first argument is absolute wrong though,DLC is DLC, here is why. DLC is only reasonable for games like CoD, Battlefield, MarioKart, Smash, etc. Games with online multiplayer to keep gameplay fresh, I get that. However; buying a fucking 60 dollar game to find out you need a special DLC pack to properly finish the game is horseshit and greed based idea and you know it. This is why AAA third parties should not have control making video games or more and more of this shady shit will happen. So just because Nintendo says this now everyone who has problem with Nintendo now thinks it is okay to pay 60 dollar game that is unfinished? I do not see how blind hate can make people think being screwed is okay


". So just because Nintendo says this now everyone who has problem with Nintendo now thinks it is okay to pay 60 dollar game that is unfinished?" What? I never said anything like this ever.

You're taking some leaps here based on flawed logic. I never said all DLC is acceptable. And, you're acting like the DLC you're describing (which is atrocious and dispicable) is common. It simply isn't. Games where you need to buy DLC to properly finish the game can be counted on one hand.

So because literally a handful of games have done such DLC garbage, all third parties should not have control over the games they make? What?