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celador said:
Very impressive PS4 numbers. Did not expect Battlefield and Type-0 HD to give that much of a boost.

It was not that big boost... last week it have PS4 at 230k and this week at 280k... 50k boost with 15k coming just from Japan.



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BraLoD said:
Nice! I have yet to see if Vita numbers were properly adjusted,,but I'm sure dr. Vita will make a thread about it soon, so I'll wait xD

Didn't expected a adjustment before the big three quarter reports to be honest.


PS Vita vs Wii U 2015 sales 
PS Vita Sales (2015 vs 2014) 

Both threads has been updated, check them out!



NewGuy said:
tak13 said:

I will take ps4 numbers with a grain of salt...I would expect these numbers in the week of bloodborne...
I feel that ioi has exaggerated with the adjustmens that did for ps4,yeah I'm implying that's overtracked!As for xbone...Europe numbers are getting again suspicious...At least for the rest of Europe!:P

Good point. We know it was 20.2M for sure on March 3rd. Do we really think the PS4 sold 900K in 3 weeks in March? Doubtful IMO.


But I wasn't specific!:P If these are the numbers with battlefield hard line/final fantasy type hd-0 for which I didn't read good news about their sales,what they will be with the super hyped ps4 exclusive,bloodborne?340k+?

Then we go to the absurd height of 1.24m+ for March...But ioi maybe drop ps4 in the week of bloodborne or have it stable...I thing that he overshot himself with the adjustments!They sould be lower,but not by much!:P I think that 1.1m+ for the 5 weeks of march about ps4 is a realistic expectation!



Dr.Vita said:
BraLoD said:
Nice! I have yet to see if Vita numbers were properly adjusted,,but I'm sure dr. Vita will make a thread about it soon, so I'll wait xD

Didn't expected a adjustment before the big three quarter reports to be honest.


PS Vita vs Wii U 2015 sales thread has been updatet yet, check it out! PS Vita is now bigger than Wii U in 2015.
PS Vita Sales (2015 vs 2014) thread will get the update soon!


Like in the beginning of 2014 and then...Anyway,Enjoy it while there is time!Don't raise your hope!:P



NewGuy said:
tak13 said:

I will take ps4 numbers with a grain of salt...I would expect these numbers in the week of bloodborne...
I feel that ioi has exaggerated with the adjustmens that did for ps4,yeah I'm implying that's overtracked!As for xbone...Europe numbers are getting again suspicious...At least for the rest of Europe!:P

Good point. We know it was 20.2M for sure on March 3rd. Do we really think the PS4 sold 900K in 3 weeks in March? Doubtful IMO.

We know it was OVER 20.2M as of March 3rd....But it is possible it sold 900k or over in March(China luanch, bloodborne, the amazon deal etc)



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Ryng_Tolu said:

But if i can, Wii U is still undertracked in Europe, and even US seem too low. Tomorrow NPD will be interesting.

cycycychris said:

I think the Wii U is undertracked this week and I think its been undertracked in Europe for a while. Hopefully NPD shows it is undertracked atleast in the US.

Glad to see some adjustments though!

Are you two basing this off some particular information?  I haven't really been keeping up with it lately, so maybe there was some European hardware sales that I missed.

At least as of the end of 2014, European sales seemed fine if not a little overtracked.  Nintendo had shipped 2.46m to Other.  VGC had tracked 2.096m in Europe, and as of March 21st has Rest of World at 590k.  This week Rest of World made up 7% of the weekly hardware sales.  It is 6.3% for lifetime hardware sales, so that seems like a decent percentage to use to determine the sales for this year.  The Wii U is at 458k for the year, so at 7% that would put RoW sales at 32k.  That means, at the end of 2014 RoW lifetime sales were 558k.

So that puts VGC Europe+RoW at 2,654k at the end of 2014.  That is 194k above what Nintendo shipped to "Other".  The one difference is Nintendo lumps the Americas together while I believe VGC includes at least South America in RoW.  That means South America would need to be a pretty large portion of those RoW sales for the Wii U to not be overtracked.  Probably at least 300k (so 54% of RoW sales.  Is that realistic?  I don't really know how the Wii U sells in the middle east or SE Asia or South America.) for there to be a decent amount on shelves in Europe/Asia/Africa/Australia/etc.  Japan for instance had over 130k left on shelves at the end of 2014.  Europe+RoW has sold roughly the same lifetime, but it is spread over a much larger territory with presumably many more stores.  It is probably reasonable to expect more units to be on shelves there than in Japan.

So, based on that, it is likely the Wii U is at least somewhat overtracked in Europe or RoW as of the end of 2014.  What that means for 2015 though is unclear.  It is certainly possible that lifetime sales were overtracked back at the start of the year, but weekly sales have been undertracked in 2015.

EDIT: The one piece of sales data I have found for Europe that came out (sort of) recently is 515k lifetime for the Wii U in France at the end of 2014.  That would make it about 35k overtracked on VGC.  However, again, this doesn't give us info on 2015 weekly sales.



TheBlackNaruto said:

We know it was OVER 20.2M as of March 3rd....But it is possible it sold 900k or over in March(China luanch, bloodborne, the amazon deal etc)

It sold 800-900k in Jan and Feb (1.7m combined).

March is a big month than these two and have big releases too... I don't see it selling less than 1.2m in March.



Yakuzaice said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

But if i can, Wii U is still undertracked in Europe, and even US seem too low. Tomorrow NPD will be interesting.

cycycychris said:

I think the Wii U is undertracked this week and I think its been undertracked in Europe for a while. Hopefully NPD shows it is undertracked atleast in the US.

Glad to see some adjustments though!

 

I will be fast.

In the lifetime sales, Wii U is correct or even overtracked, BUT is not because the Europe.

Wii U is overtracked in the US lifetime by 200,000 unit... that is why usually Wii U VGC sales are too close to the Nintendo shipment.

Now, seem that Wii U is DOWN YOY in Europe... why this?

There is no sense for be down YOY in Europe, we have +20% YOY in the US, and the gap is gonne to increase this NPD, so, how can in Europe be down, if we considering that usually the Europe is the market with the bigger legs?



Yakuzaice said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

But if i can, Wii U is still undertracked in Europe, and even US seem too low. Tomorrow NPD will be interesting.

cycycychris said:

I think the Wii U is undertracked this week and I think its been undertracked in Europe for a while. Hopefully NPD shows it is undertracked atleast in the US.

Glad to see some adjustments though!

Are you two basing this off some particular information?  I haven't really been keeping up with it lately, so maybe there was some European hardware sales that I missed.

At least as of the end of 2014, European sales seemed fine if not a little overtracked.  Nintendo had shipped 2.46m to Other.  VGC had tracked 2.096m in Europe, and as of March 21st has Rest of World at 590k.  This week Rest of World made up 7% of the weekly hardware sales.  It is 6.3% for lifetime hardware sales, so that seems like a decent percentage to use to determine the sales for this year.  The Wii U is at 458k for the year, so at 7% that would put RoW sales at 32k.  That means, at the end of 2014 RoW lifetime sales were 558k.

So that puts VGC Europe+RoW at 2,654k at the end of 2014.  That is 194k above what Nintendo shipped to "Other".  The one difference is Nintendo lumps the Americas together while I believe VGC includes at least South America in RoW.  That means South America would need to be a pretty large portion of those RoW sales for the Wii U to not be overtracked.  Probably at least 300k (so 54% of RoW sales.  Is that realistic?  I don't really know how the Wii U sells in the middle east or SE Asia or South America.) for there to be a decent amount on shelves in Europe/Asia/Africa/Australia/etc.  Japan for instance had over 130k left on shelves at the end of 2014.  Europe+RoW has sold roughly the same lifetime, but it is spread over a much larger territory with presumably many more stores.  It is probably reasonable to expect more units to be on shelves there than in Japan.

So, based on that, it is likely the Wii U is at least somewhat overtracked in Europe or RoW as of the end of 2014.  What that means for 2015 though is unclear.  It is certainly possible that lifetime sales were overtracked back at the start of the year, but weekly sales have been undertracked in 2015.

EDIT: The one piece of sales data I have found for Europe that came out (sort of) recently is 515k lifetime for the Wii U in France at the end of 2014.  That would make it about 35k overtracked on VGC.  However, again, this doesn't give us info on 2015 weekly sales.

Which article?You refer to le figgaro's inaccurate article?



Square enix should had released FF Type 0 on Vita instead of Xb1



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m