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Would it matter to you a downgrade in XCX?

Yes 144 29.45%
 
No 266 54.40%
 
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curl-6 on 15 April 2015
Tootylicious said:

I think I just don't like that you used the word upgrade in this context, because it implies an improvement, while the use of blur can be very subjective (is it an effect as you said and they require processing power) compared to many technical advancements (higher polygon count, anti aliasing, higher texture resolutions, higher frame rate).
My initial post wasn't fully serious, I'm not bitter about the changes since the 2013 trailer, but I don't see the benefits of motion blur in that scene (the director might). I'd disable any kind of motion blur in games if the settings allow me to do so.

Truth be told I'm not a fan of motion blur either, at least not in instances like this, (I think it works best for arcade racers or in games like Uncharted) I was just saying that it is an additional effect.



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curl-6 on 15 April 2015
Tachikoma said:

But hey, ill cover it in more detail with pictures once the retail copy arrives, and if i can get clearance from mono/EAD i'll cross compare with footage I took of an early devkit build.

Were you involved with the game at one stage?



Roma on 15 April 2015

you only need one bad Nintendo picture for the idiots to show up


one picture = the entire game



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

Tootylicious on 15 April 2015
curl-6 said:
Tootylicious said:

I think I just don't like that you used the word upgrade in this context, because it implies an improvement, while the use of blur can be very subjective (is it an effect as you said and they require processing power) compared to many technical advancements (higher polygon count, anti aliasing, higher texture resolutions, higher frame rate).
My initial post wasn't fully serious, I'm not bitter about the changes since the 2013 trailer, but I don't see the benefits of motion blur in that scene (the director might). I'd disable any kind of motion blur in games if the settings allow me to do so.

Truth be told I'm not a fan of motion blur either, at least not in instances like this, (I think it works best for arcade racers or in games like Uncharted) I was just saying that it is an additional effect.

It is mostly a cinematic effect, so I see why it'd be used in games like Uncharted with forgivable gameplay. It also works in racers to emphasize the speed. It's like the speed lines in anime.

But I'd still disable it in any game that requires precision and skill.



curl-6 on 15 April 2015
Tootylicious said:

It is mostly a cinematic effect, so I see why it'd be used in games like Uncharted with forgivable gameplay. It also works in racers to emphasize the speed. It's like the speed lines in anime.

But I'd still disable it in any game that requires precision and skill.

To be fair, XCX isn't exactly the kind of game that needs instantaneous reflexes and pixel-perfect accuracy. ;)



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Tootylicious on 15 April 2015
curl-6 said:
Tootylicious said:

It is mostly a cinematic effect, so I see why it'd be used in games like Uncharted with forgivable gameplay. It also works in racers to emphasize the speed. It's like the speed lines in anime.

But I'd still disable it in any game that requires precision and skill.

To be fair, XCX isn't exactly the kind of game that needs instantaneous reflexes and pixel-perfect accuracy. ;)

Oh, definitely not! But it'd still annoy as it's much more gameplay focussed than say Uncharted.



Miyamotoo on 15 April 2015

Only cutscene downgrade..



Tachikoma on 15 April 2015
curl-6 said:
Tachikoma said:

But hey, ill cover it in more detail with pictures once the retail copy arrives, and if i can get clearance from mono/EAD i'll cross compare with footage I took of an early devkit build.

Were you involved with the game at one stage?

In a way, doubt it's enough to be credited though.



curl-6 on 15 April 2015

This thread has got me rewatching the early footage a lot, and I'm noticing quite a few little technical hiccups I didn't pick up on at the time, which have since been smoothed over. Just typical "unfinished build" type stuff like glitches and placeholders that don't really show up in screens, but in motion are jarring. That's why I don't really see the overall product as having been downgraded; some elements clearly have been, but the more I watch the original footage I notice flaws that are conspicuous by their absence since around E3 2014.



captain carot on 15 April 2015
Tachikoma said:
my copy arrives in a little over a week, si ill do a detailed graphical analysis then with 1080p captures.

Also the use of motion blur doesnt make up for the texture and structural downgrades, and can be used to hide low poly / low texture detail objects, going off of the scene changes, i'd say it was part a aesthetical choice and part a cost saving measure on resources that the number of dolls in the scene was greatly reduced. as well as much of the internal geometry of the buildings interior.

But hey, ill cover it in more detail with pictures once the retail copy arrives, and if i can get clearance from mono/EAD i'll cross compare with footage I took of an early devkit build.


Sounds great. Looking forward to that.