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sc94597 on 04 April 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sc94597 said:

Which is a pretty poor argument. It is precisely that Youtube is a strong source of word of mouth and publicity that Nintendo wants to control it. There is such a thing as bad publicity and bad word of mouth. 


Yeah, but Nintendo doesn't care about good or bad publicity, they just want control. They've always been control freaks. They even tried to control third party in the 80's and 90's historically. Its just the way they are.

Why do they want control though? To minimize risk. Sony and Microsoft can take risks because they are large corporations with many divisions. Nintendo is a far more conservative company when it comes to risk-taking. If they take a risk (such as the Wii and NDS) it is only because it isn't really a risk. The Wii would've made them a profit whether it sold 20 million or sold 100 million. When they start giving more control (although still not as much as the other companies do) to 3rd parties and start to heed their demands, they end up losing money (Wii U.) Nintendo lost a lot when they did this in the 90's with Phillips and Sony. So in the end you had them pushing for full control over their business. Youtube represents a risk, and they are trying to mitigate said risk by producing revenue streams while building powers which will let them remove content that can damage the sales of their games (such as certain let's plays which act as a subsitute for the actual good rather than a complement or non-creative content) 



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Samus Aran on 04 April 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Samus Aran said:

I'd be more worried about other companies if I were you. ;)

And the Roman Empire only fell in 1453, that makes it the longest existing empire by a long shot.


Didn't the egyptian empire last for longer? Seriously, Nintendo should at least change some of their policies to better adapt to the gaming market of today. 

Of course, no company is perfect.

Egypt was never really an empire, but a kingdom(s). They have also been conquered many times by foreign forces like the Assyrians, Ethiopians (Taharqa was an Ethiopian pharao), Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Ottomans, etc.



HollyGamer on 04 April 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Samus Aran said:

I'd be more worried about other companies if I were you. ;)

And the Roman Empire only fell in 1453, that makes it the longest existing empire by a long shot.


Didn't the egyptian empire last for longer? Seriously, Nintendo should at least change some of their policies to better adapt to the gaming market of today. 

Naaah, i think they will, they just the type of company that learn when they hit by some rock , with there plan on  smart phone device  and NX, i bet they will change for better, just look how Fatal Farme Wii U coming this year. Nintendo maybe a company born from feudal era culture but they still need market to do business.



S.T.A.G.E. on 04 April 2015
ihatefatkatz said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

This argument has nothing to do with gamers, but rather Youtubers who provide content to the viewers.

So it's just youtuber's protecting their bottom dollars, nothing more or nothing less. It's kinda telling that the most vocal are the youtuber's who do not focus on Nintendo content are the most offended, while those who do are not perturbed one bit.


You're questioning a situation you don't have all the answers to and yet you're assuming the Nintendo users are not perturbed one bit. When Microsoft put DRM on gaming everyone was on the same page standing up for one another. Same issue here, but this is about spreading word of mouth without sanctions set by a company. All the other companies aren't interfering because Youtube does help give them free publicity for better or for worse. People have a right to their opinion, especially in the US.



Hynad on 04 April 2015

I love Nintendo. I really do. The Wii U is currently my only console this gen and I'm having quite a blast with it. I love how Nintendo always manages to put love in my heart! It's like, all they do is to make sure my gaming time is filled with flowers and rainbows! They want my money, and since they treat me so well, I have absolutely no problem sending them as much as I can.

I wish all other companies were like Nintendo. They make me forgive anything they do that is a bit fishy. Because they've been around longer than most in the video game industry, so surely they know better than anyone else. For this reason I don't feel the need to ever criticize them. They know better than anyone, and for that I am thankful that they take my hand and the money that is in it. Surely, this will make them richer, so in turn I can expect even more awesome gaming moments in the future!

Thank you Nintendo!

My NNID: Hynad81

See you all there! =D



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S.T.A.G.E. on 04 April 2015
sc94597 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Yeah, but Nintendo doesn't care about good or bad publicity, they just want control. They've always been control freaks. They even tried to control third party in the 80's and 90's historically. Its just the way they are.

Why do they want control though? To minimize risk. Sony and Microsoft can take risks because they are large corporations with many divisions. Nintendo is a far more conservative company when it comes to risk-taking. If they take a risk (such as the Wii and NDS) it is only because it isn't really a risk. The Wii would've made them a profit whether it sold 20 million or sold 100 million. When they start giving more control (although still not as much as the other companies do) to 3rd parties and start to heed their demands, they end up losing money (Wii U.) Nintendo lost a lot when they did this in the 90's with Phillips and Sony. So in the end you had them pushing for full control over their business. Youtube represents a risk, and they are trying to mitigate said risk by producing revenue streams while building powers which will let them remove content that can damage the sales of their games (such as certain let's plays which act as a subsitute for the actual good rather than a complement or non-creative content) 


What risk would they be so afraid of? 

Nintendo has always been overbearing and its historically known. As I said, this is why they have issues with third party and have a vice grip over their formats. They are only open minded if they in their mind feel things favor them. They don't care about what time they are in and they've never been considered the "cool" brand over the likes of Sega, Microsoft or even Sony because of that.

Despite their light hearted image on the outside, on the inside they are actually much colder to outside opinion than most.



binary solo on 04 April 2015

Nintendo's job is selling consoles and selling games. It's nickel and diming to try to make revenue from youtubers and the ongoing success of Nintendo depends more on having youtubers give exposure to your games than to try to bleed revenue from youtubers. I think it is fine for gaming companies to reserve the right to disallow videos that brings the company into disrepute, like associating a game with racist propaganda. But other than that youtubers should be given lots of leeway and gaming companies shouldn't try to filtch insignificant amounts of revenue from youtubers. They should claim revenue for advertising off YouTube itself, as it is YouTube (Google) that is getting free money from game videos on YouTube.



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sc94597 on 04 April 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sc94597 said:

Why do they want control though? To minimize risk. Sony and Microsoft can take risks because they are large corporations with many divisions. Nintendo is a far more conservative company when it comes to risk-taking. If they take a risk (such as the Wii and NDS) it is only because it isn't really a risk. The Wii would've made them a profit whether it sold 20 million or sold 100 million. When they start giving more control (although still not as much as the other companies do) to 3rd parties and start to heed their demands, they end up losing money (Wii U.) Nintendo lost a lot when they did this in the 90's with Phillips and Sony. So in the end you had them pushing for full control over their business. Youtube represents a risk, and they are trying to mitigate said risk by producing revenue streams while building powers which will let them remove content that can damage the sales of their games (such as certain let's plays which act as a subsitute for the actual good rather than a complement or non-creative content) 


What risk would they be so afraid of? 

Nintendo has always been overbearing and its historically known. As I said, this is why they have issues with third party and have a vice grip over their formats. They are only open minded if they in their mind feel things favor them. They don't care about what time they are in and they've never been considered the "cool" brand over the likes of Sega, Microsoft or even Sony because of that.

Despite their light hearted image on the outside, on the inside they are actually much colder to outside opinion than most.

For starters: IP damage. Nintendo's biggest resources are their IP's. If somebody poorly distributes the content of their IP's it can damage the monetary value of said IP as it would act as a subsitute rather than a complement in some (but not all) cases, pushing down the demand curve on a supply/demand graph. Nintendo's role on youtube is to have all let's plays act as complementary or suplementary goods, not subsitute goods.

Nintendo's not in the business to look "cool" they're in the business to sell video games. They do it well enough that they were more profitable than "cool" companies like Sega and Microsoft. It is only when they give power to other (3rd party) companies (like EA) that they start to become unprofitable (which is evidenced by the Wii U.)

 



S.T.A.G.E. on 04 April 2015
Hynad said:

I love Nintendo. I really do. The Wii U is currently my only console this gen and I'm having quite a blast with it. I love how Nintendo always manages to put love in my heart! It's like, all they do is to make sure my gaming time is filled with flowers and rainbows! They want my money, and since they treat me so well, I have absolutely no problem sending them as much as I can.

I wish all other companies were like Nintendo. They make me forgive anything they do that is a bit fishy. Because they've been around longer than most in the video game industry, so surely they know better than anyone else. For this reason I don't feel the need to ever criticize them. They know better than anyone, and for that I am thankful that they take my hand and the money that is in it. Surely, this will make them richer, so in turn I can expect even more awesome gaming moments in the future!

Thank you Nintendo!

My NNID: Hynad81

See you all there! =D


LOL



S.T.A.G.E. on 04 April 2015
sc94597 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


What risk would they be so afraid of? 

Nintendo has always been overbearing and its historically known. As I said, this is why they have issues with third party and have a vice grip over their formats. They are only open minded if they in their mind feel things favor them. They don't care about what time they are in and they've never been considered the "cool" brand over the likes of Sega, Microsoft or even Sony because of that.

Despite their light hearted image on the outside, on the inside they are actually much colder to outside opinion than most.

For starters: IP damage. Nintendo's biggest resources are their IP's. If somebody poorly distributes the content of their IP's it can damage the monetary value of said IP as it would act as a subsitute rather than a complement in some (but not all) cases, pushing down the demand curve on a supply/demand graph. Nintendo's role on youtube is to have all let's plays act as complementary or suplementary goods, not subsitute goods.

Nintendo's not in the business to look "cool" they're in the business to sell video games. They do it well enough that they were more profitable than "cool" companies like Sega and Microsoft. It is only when they give power to other (3rd party) companies (like EA) that they start to become unprofitable (which is evidenced by the Wii U.)

 


So you're essentially saying all other brands of neglectful of their IP's by not interfering in Youtube content creators output?