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Nintendo's Youtube Policy is?

That is not cool, Nintendo. 322 64.02%
 
I stand with Nintendo. 127 25.25%
 
Poor Joe.. 54 10.74%
 
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daredevil.shark on 04 April 2015
sundin13 said:
Wagram said:

Nintendo already gouges their fans enough with the $60 titles that never drop in price, the plastic toys, and the hundred different versions of a console that no one can properly name because of the variations. However, they still need more money. They are out of touch and i'm glad youtubers like Joe are finally calling them out. Nintendo doesn't deserve free passes because they're Nintendo.


You serious about this? This isn't really the thread to get into this, but Nintendo is also one of the few companies to release games at variable prices (releasing numerous 40$ games), they consistently have the cheapest hardware, last gen, they were the only company to have the base price for games at 50$, they have mostly been praised for their DLC practices etc..

Your complaints are petty at best and laughable in the grand scheme of things...

Have you seen the video? Joe said the exact same thing. And Joe isn't wrong about it. People have started asking questions. It will keep getting louder in future.



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Goodnightmoon on 04 April 2015
OttoniBastos said:
Buy reading this thread the only conclusion i can reach is:

It's alright when nintedo does it.

If it was EA or activision or even microsoft everyone would be shiting on them cause it's normal to shit on them.

This companies are evil right? but not nintendo!

Everytime nintendo does something bad,people go on the "nintendo don't need [insert something here]"

Nintendo build a machine that third parties have a hard time working with? Nintendo don't need third parties!

Nintendo enforce bad deals for youtubers that nobody else is doing? nintendo don't need youtubers!

Yeah definitely nintendo don't need youtubers or multiplatforms! look at WiiU for example,it's selling so well,right?!

All the teenagers who look to pewdiepie and buy games cause "pewdie play it" are buying wiiU right now! right?

All the people who plays GTA and COD are buying WiiU right now too....right?!

I mean,it's not like WiiU is niche machine for 90's males with extremely notalgia bias toward nintendo.....right?

This is pure flaming. I don´t understand the mod team sometimes.

Moderated,

-Mr Khan



Acevil on 04 April 2015
daredevil.shark said:
Those who quoted me here single handedly proves Angry Joe's point of view. On the other hand others are doing it right. Sony just partnered with "Vattividya" to promote. Well. If Nintendo wants to be conservative then it will be another lesson like Wii U.


Nintendo also has many youtube partnerships. Don't let this video completely confuse you. Nintendo has allies in youtube community as well. Many people call it a whitelist. 



 

Mythmaker1 on 04 April 2015
Lafiel said:
Mythmaker1 said:
For those of you trying to make this about the money, you're right.

Because it is his job.

If you went to work one day, and your boss asked if you wanted to be paid significantly less to start working on another project, you'd probably say no.

It's the same here, but worse. Because if Joe and others on YouTube start signaling that this is an acceptable thing to do, then other publishers will start doing it. And while some may be naive enough to believe Nintendo will only use their new-found powers for good, we all know other publishers would exploit it.

and it's likely that the people who are popular now won't be in 10 to 20 years, so they understandably want to maximize their income while they are lucky enough to be popular - thousends of youtube video authors aren't at that stage and are just scraping by with their earnings

it's not a job you can rely on for 40+ years

Agreed.



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sc94597 on 04 April 2015
Mythmaker1 said:
sc94597 said:

A better analogy is that you are collaborating with another company (at your work) and you can potentially net more income because let's say you get a commission based on the company's revenue, but then the other company puts stipulations on the deal and you cannot gain as much revenue as you wished due to said stipulations. Even then, it isn't equivalent. 

Better, you have the choice to collaborate with several companies with similar arrangements, but one offers significantly less revenue.

Certainly, but remember this is the entertainment industry. The people consuming his content want him to feel attached (either positively or negatively) to the games he plays more than how much money he gets from reviewing/playing them. It makes sense that he will be viewed just as poorly for only caring about the revenue and not the actual games that Nintendo is viewed for only caring about the revenue and not the youtubers. 



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Zekkyou on 04 April 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
OttoniBastos said:
Buy reading this thread the only conclusion i can reach is:

It's alright when nintedo does it.

If it was EA or activision or even microsoft everyone would be shiting on them cause it's normal to shit on them.

This companies are evil right? but not nintendo!

Everytime nintendo does something bad,people go on the "nintendo don't need [insert something here]"

Nintendo build a machine that third parties have a hard time working with? Nintendo don't need third parties!

Nintendo enforce bad deals for youtubers that nobody else is doing? nintendo don't need youtubers!

Yeah definitely nintendo don't need youtubers or multiplatforms! look at WiiU for example,it's selling so well,right?!

All the teenagers who look to pewdiepie and buy games cause "pewdie play it" are buying wiiU right now! right?

All the people who plays GTA and COD are buying WiiU right now too....right?!

I mean,it's not like WiiU is niche machine for 90's males with extremely notalgia bias toward nintendo.....right?

This is pure flaming. I don´t understand the mod team sometimes.

Can we wait more than 20 minutes before criticizing the mod team? :p I'd be surprised if they've even seen this post yet, let alone decided on a moderation.



Wagram on 04 April 2015
Acevil said:

Isn't something like that just percieved value, for example if something is selling at $50 or $399 why lower it? I'm sorry, but I find that argument not the strongest to take a knack off them for greed. Nintendo isn't other video game companies most of there sales happen over time, not the first couple of weeks. So it understandable why nintendo has valued associated with their IPs, while others don't. 

I'm not saying they aren't a greedy corporation, (They are), (So is every company). 


I think I would agree that it's a case of what one would perceive as value. From a business standpoint I can see why they do it but as a consumer I have frustration with it when other companies aren't following this practice. Value degrades over time in my opinion (unless it's a rare collectible). Games should not cost the same as they did at launch almost two years after it was released. I find it greedy, they call it smart business. However, that's one of the reasons I own seven Wii games and over 70 Xbox 360 and PS3 titles.



Dusk on 04 April 2015

This is just another click bait rant from angry Joe. What the hell does he have to be so angry about? He likely doesn't have to work due to his "work" on this channel and likely gets much of his review copies for free as well since he does have a sizable audience.
It's all a shtick and people just feed on it. It's all a bad joke...



Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

Goodnightmoon on 04 April 2015
Zekkyou said:
Goodnightmoon said:

This is pure flaming. I don´t understand the mod team sometimes.

Can we wait more than 20 minutes before criticizing the mod team? :p I'd be surprised of they've even seen this post yet, let alone decided on a moderation.


Good point. 



Mythmaker1 on 04 April 2015
sc94597 said:
Mythmaker1 said:

Better, you have the choice to collaborate with several companies with similar arrangements, but one offers significantly less revenue.

Certainly, but remember this is the entertainment industry. The people consuming his content want him to feel attached (either positively or negatively) to the games he plays more than how much money he gets from reviewing/playing them. It makes sense that he will be viewed just as poorly for only caring about the revenue and not the actual games that Nintendo is viewed for only caring about the revenue and not the youtubers. 

True. On the other hand, under Nintendo's current policies actively discourage not only their games in general, but specific games. Almost six months later, one still cannot monetize videos of Super Smash WiiU at all, much less anything recently released. As someone who makes his living playing and discussing games which are currently popular, he's doubly disincentivized to play Nintendo games.



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