Materia-Blade said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Nothing about the Wii U screams core gamer. Core Nintendo gamers maybe but not core gamer.
OT. It hasn't been left to die but it doesn't get the variety and attention it needs. Right now I only play Mario Kart and Tekken, I sold all my other games because I completely lost interest in the system. Smash was supposed to turn the tide byut I still haven't bought it, probably won't.
I plan on getting a PS4 for Sony and console exclusives like Bloodborne, TLoU, GoWIII, Uncharted, GT, Tekken and Final Fantasy.
Right now 95% of my gaming is done on PC with "buggy, uninspired, overrated and broken" 3rd party multiplats XD
I always hoped the Wii U would be similar to the PSOne. A good mix of hardcore and casual games. Nintendo games with AAA 3rd party games side by side on the same system. It was wishfull thinking.
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Then explain what a core gamer is. Because nintendo's games are mostly very challenging and that certainly constitutes as core games.
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Id define a core-gamer as a mainstream or niche gamer who doesnt play (or focus on) casual games. Extra points for:
- Anybody who reads reviews or visits sites like this
- Anyone who buys consoles and games with their own money
- Anybody who knows a decent amount of gaming history from whichever era they jumped in.
- Anyone who doesnt trash genres or publishers they dont like for the hell of it.
- Anyone who puts tons of hours into a game (probably more than one)
Id define casual games as games with little to no depth or challenge: prime examples are most Facebook games or stereotypical mobile games. A casual game is also a game thats very easy to beat on its easiest difficulty. Another way of describing a casual game is a game an infant could easily beat because it requires little to no thought or strategy.
Id call a game like the Walking Dead casual (as much as I love it) , I'd call a game like Alien Isolation hardcore. That said games scale with difficlty, I'd call Mario Kart 8 hardcore because while anyone can play it it takes real skill to play it well. Same applies to a game like Battlefield 4 (online modes).
I do consider myself to be one type of core gamer, the mainstream core gamer. Emphasis on mainstream, this is very important (to sales) and I'll expand on this below. I started out with PC centric (niche) titles like Simcity, Dungeon Siege, Doom and Escape from Monkey Island before gravitating to mainstream "console-port" games like Prince of Persia, Battlefront, Grand Theft Auto, Far Cry and Need for Speed. These are my top 12 games (according to playtime) on Raptr. I'd call all of them (besides the Walking Dead, Ass Creed and maybe FFXIII) hardcore games. Please dont downplay them and act as if they are all buggy and uninspred.
- Dragon Age: Inquisition (PC)
- Mass Effect 3(PC)
- Mass Effect 2(PC)
- The Witcher 2(PC)
- Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (PC)
- Final Fantasy XIIII (PC)
- Battlefield 4 Battlefield 4 (PC)
- Far Cry 3(PC)
- Alien: Isolation (PC)
- The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (PC)
- Left 4 Dead 2 (PC)
- The Walking Dead(PC)
Only two of them are on the Wii U, even though at least half of them are from the same era. None of the sequels or followups will ever be on the Wii U. So when I say the Wii U isnt a hardcore sytem, this is what I meant. Maybe the correct term is the Wii U isnt a "mainstream core" system, which is what I suggested to Anfebious when I said it may be a "Nintendo-core system".
If you pay attention to the PC core games I mentioned, a PC or Console with only those games would sell quite badly as well. These games exist today primarily as crowd funded games to satisfy a dedicated and vocal niche, basically the same kind of customer that loves the Wii U. Dedicated and Vocal but totally niche regardless as evidenced by sales of hardware as well as games that dont cater to their taste (e.g Third Party gamers, including the non-broken ones).
To anyone who isnt a fan of Nintendo games or platfomers in general the Wii U is a very boring platform. The Wii had much more variety in this regard. Just one example, it had more faaar more JRPGS (Xenoblade, The Last Story, Tales of Symphonia, Pandoras Castle, another I cant remember but published by Xceed). Id argue that the Wii had more racers and fighters as well.
Currently the Wii U is bare bones to anyone who isnt "Nintendo-core" and unlike the competition its future doesnt inspire confidence. I KNOW the PS4 will have tons of fighters, tons of racers, tons of RPGs, tons of Action games and tons of shooters in its lifetime. I cant say the same for the Wii U. You dont have to play any Sony exclusive to have a good time on the PS4, the same applies to the XBox. The Wii U without exclusives is a useless piece of plastic.
You can employ the Quality != Quantity scapegoat but most consumers do not put Nintendo on a pedestal and have no problem taking 5 games rated above 85 over 1 game rated above 90. To make matters the Wii U only has 3 games above 90 anyway theres not a huge gulf in quality as some would lke to pretend, PS4 should match or exceed it by this time next year. In fact throw personal preference in and a game can easily lose or gain 10 points based on the individual and their preferences.
I hope you get my point.