pokymon90 said:
bobfulci said:
Ever see the sign " No shoes, no shirt, NO service?" Same thing applies. If you truly believe in free speech and individual freedom, you cannot force a business to serve anyone they decide not to serve. It may suck in many ways but living in a free society means dealing with things you may not agree with.
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Agree completely. They own the place, you play by their rules. Love seeing all the different viewpoints in this thread though. I am just a firm believer that people should be able to sell to whomever they want. However, if the world was majority black athiest homosexuals and they did not accept white Catholic heterosexual men I guess I would feel kind of sad though. I could see myself complaining in that situation if there wasn't other options. Luckily for gay people, The majority DO NOT deny service to gay people. And like I said earlier, if the majority did deny service that speaks to what the American people want as the people have the power and shouldn't be forced to do something by the minority. That is called Minoritarianism.
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even more luckily for most of us, laws like this don't last and being gay is protected from discrimination in many places, right up there with race, sex religion and more.
do you have any idea how many laws a person running a business already has to follow? and by forming a business and getting a business licens or forming some sort of LLC they have in order to gain various protections under the law, giving up some of their freedoms of what they can do as well.
Compairing it to no shirt no shoes no service is a joke. There are big differences between dress codes and denial of service over sexual orientation. People can still refuse service to people who are loud and obnoxious.
And focing people who already have a business to not refuse service to someone for any of the various protected statuses is hardly being forced by the minority, we have protections for them so that we don't have dictatorships of the majority. It's easy to say hey you have other options when all the options are avaliable to you from a position of privalege.
in your society where people can discriminate would you force them to post signs saying that they deny sevice to whomever they deny it to, or would even that be to terible a thing to force them to do?