Holy Crap! It was officerraichu, you two have the same avatar XD.

What exactly is the problem? You can start your PC without ever seeing a desktop you can play games with a PS3 PS4 XBO or 360 controller or one of the billion other controllers. You dont even need a mouse or keyboard to use them.

The "install game to play thing" is also just arbitrary and is unneeded. its just a simple sofware solution that is needed and devs need to finally make PC games the way console games work  and btw we are entering an era where less and less people are going to pop in a game into a device anyway because we will go digital.

There is no difference between say PS4 and XBO   compared to PC other than the first two run some OS that does not have a desktop and has 100% controller support for all menus. This is something that can easily be introduced in windows 10 or whatever. (like I can use the whole android OS with mouse and keyboard as soon as I connect them to the tablet/phone) You make it look so complicated but I do used my PC as a console (for PC games and for emulation) for years. The only thing that I cannot do with my controller is turn on the PC but this is also nothing that cant be fixed if a single person would sit down and solve the problem.

Well "NO" you can play specific game based on some specific "PC Spec " and  all games is not optimize for one spec it has different optimization from each vendor or card manufacturer, some games play better on Nvidia some games play better on Ati card and so on.

"Btw I am also pretty sure the original PS3 has different ram than the supersplim and I do know for a fact that the 360 had BenQ drives and some were from LiteOn etc. So its the same there you just dont know it ;)" Yeah but then every games that played on PS3 from PS3 fat, PS3 slim, PS3 super Silm "look the same ". Unlike games on PC.

So i hope you don't made another funny comment and saying console dividing the market. It was market, and technology that invent console. People needs and want just different from time to time.

Possible, I doubt it though.

I don't think it coming to PC would be a big deal though - especially as its not at launch.

Bloodborne on the pc, it's official now ! :

http://imgur.com/dIBxLWW

What hazzle are you talking about? Its like talking to someone that does not know what he is criticizing. Dont be so vague explain the problem so I can tell you if it really is a problem or not.

PS4 and XBO are PCs running other operating systems!

There is simply no advantage a console has over a PC that a PC cannot also have. Well there is one it is 1 device optimization but that can be nullified.  When we would have a "PC Forum" (you know like the bluray forum that consisted of several top companies that decided to create a new standard)  that would recommend 3/6 devices having different specs for PCs (that do NOT force people to accept the hardware but lay the foundation for better PC optimization. People can still decide whether to buy those prebuild boxes or build their own) everything would be quite easy.


Optimizing the software for a few systems is not much different than doing it for PS4 XBO WiiU and PC today but it makes "special eco system hardware" redundant which would be something we all should welcome.

I mean Nintendo could still opt for the 720p30 system priced at I dunno 200 bucks? but every owner of the Nintendo system could still play Sony and MS games.
Sony can still opt for the Ultra system and everyone could play Nintendo games in 1080p. Sony Nintendo Microsoft or whoever also wants to be part of the party can individualize their systems with bigger harddrives  or more silent or more stylish design or I dunno build in optical audio out or bundle a remote for bluray playback .... but the core system would be the same (just like with bluray players today).

There is no disadvantage at all when you chose the prebuild systems. The only hazzles you might encounter is whaen you ignore the prebuild systems and decide to buy the newest $1000 Intel cpu and the newest Nvidia Titan GPU etc. But thats up to you.

I dont understand why consumers want something that is bad for consumers. I mean do you really want to be forced to buy 3 systems or 4 in case you also play PC games just so you can play all exclusives?

its not like Nintendo Sony and Microsoft cant have their own type of steam store or whatever. They just should stop making hardware that is just unnecessary. If they would start to be completely different I would kinda understand that  but the way it is right now is just stupid and the only people that have an advantage because of that are people working at the console companies because they get their share on multiplatform games releasing on their system. (which would not even be much different if there would be a PSN Store eShop and Xbox marketplace that runs on PCs. They would just earn their share through their stores)

Btw
Dont take this so personal bro.

I don't think Sony would have a problem with this coming out on PC provided its at least 6 months down the line so that the PS4 has had its sales fill. You'd argue that it coming out on the PC is more harmful to the Xbox One in reality as there is nothing worse than a great game coming out on 2 platforms and missing one out as opposed to just one and missing two.

While it isn't 100%, Steam has taken a lot of this "hassle" out of the picture. It's not like consoles are without their required updates, patches or issues either. One consolation I have with PC that I don't have with consoles is that if something doesn't work I can likely fix it. On a console if something doesn't work you have to wait for a patch or send your specific console to the manufacturer for repairs.  Installing a GPU driver is quite simple these days. You have your driver client alert you that an update is available. You click on that update. It downloads, installs, and restarts. 

Consoles and PC's are slowly merging into one spectrum of platforms. You'll have closed systems (probably Nintendo at the extreme) on one end of the spectrum, and fully open systems on the other (what we currently call PC's.) Everywhere in between you'll have varying levels of access and manipulation. The current hardware manufacturers are preparing for this by creating streaming services and unified architectures/OS and PC hardware manufacturers are going the opposite way, introducing increasingly more closed platforms than a full-blown PC (steam, steamboxes, origin, etc, etc.) 

It is really easy to download your PC game, install it, and start playing these days, with no hassle. 

Not going to happen.

All I have to do is select the game I want and click play, the game updates are also automatic and I can even choose to have other games update when I play my games, something the current gens can't really do.

The plug and play part of consoles is pretty much close to dead, it's quicker for me to download my games than trying to hunt down physical copies (fuel/bus tax) and saves me time and money in the process (deals/steam sales).

I also haven't eneded to update my drivers in ages since all I had to do was install Nvidia Geforce experience and it handles the drivers for you automatically for both installation and when to download them, though I stopped using GFE because I discovered I don't need ever single driver update to play my games properly, especially for older cards.

The only worry you need tot hink about is your hardware specs, having up to 8gb DDR3 RAM, a decent i5 CPU, 600,700,900 series GPU and a 500-700 PSU, you can choose from a load of motherboards and get cheap HDD's and you're all set, there's even sites that allow you to choose parts for your PC and those sites make sure all the parts work together so you don't end up creating and buying something that won't work, there's even places in store/online that can put it together for you.

Factually a M+K is objectively suprior to the gamepad which you can find from numerous sources all over the internet, the gamepad is great for platformers, racers and fighting games though, the M+K isn't just meant for only RTS games.

The thing is PC's were very difficult to use and build in the past but that's practically changed now with people like Linus, Tek Syndicate and even PCGamer has weekly articles on building PC's and parts good for performance and money, articles to help understand PC gaming, PC gaming today is hardly impossible to get into and can even be cheaper in the long run (steam sales/hardware deals) with access to multiple peripherals and places to buy your games.