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curl-6 on 18 March 2015
Game_God said:
curl-6 said:

What is it with companies these days announcing a game, then going into radio silence for months and months on end, letting the hype die away instead of maintaining it, all the while assuring us that it's "coming along well" but showing nothing to substantiate such claims?

Look at Nintendo; we have seen absolutely nothing of Yoshi's Woolly World, Devil's Third, or Starfox since E3... 9 months ago. They tell us Devil's Third looks "so much better now", yet provide not so much as a screenshot to prove it. Is it really so hard to just take a sceen or two and post them to twitter, just to throw us a bone?

Then there's The Last Guardian, which Sony tells us every year is still in the works, yet hasn't actually been seen in nearly six years. It's become a running joke.

And don't even get me started on FAST Racing Neo. First they tell us the first media is coming in "early 2014"; what we got was three measly screenshots, in September. They said the game itself was "coming 2014", yet here we are, 3 months into 2015, and we still don't have so much as a trailer. Then, a few weeks ago, they said new media was "being prepared". Guess what? It hasn't arrived, and last night when asked about it, they say they have "nothing to announce yet". Of course, this hasn't stopped them making grandiose promises and hyping the game to the moon and back.

Let's not even discuss Shin Megami Tensai x Fire Emblem; over 2 years since announcement, and not a single shred of material to show for itself.

Bottom line: don't tell, show.


... and for that, Karma will repay you greatly!

As in Karma will punish me, or them? XD

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it'll be awesome, but all the over-promising and not delivering is getting tiresome.



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bunchanumbers on 18 March 2015
curl-6 said:

What is it with companies these days announcing a game, then going into radio silence for months and months on end, letting the hype die away instead of maintaining it, all the while assuring us that it's "coming along well" but showing nothing to substantiate such claims?

Look at Nintendo; we have seen absolutely nothing of Yoshi's Woolly World, Devil's Third, or Starfox since E3... 9 months ago. They tell us Devil's Third looks "so much better now", yet provide not so much as a screenshot to prove it. Is it really so hard to just take a sceen or two and post them to twitter, just to throw us a bone?

Then there's The Last Guardian, which Sony tells us every year is still in the works, yet hasn't actually been seen in nearly six years. It's become a running joke.

And don't even get me started on FAST Racing Neo. First they tell us the first media is coming in "early 2014"; what we got was three measly screenshots, in September. They said the game itself was "coming 2014", yet here we are, 3 months into 2015, and we still don't have so much as a trailer. Then, a few weeks ago, they said new media was "being prepared". Guess what? It hasn't arrived, and last night when asked about it, they say they have "nothing to announce yet". Of course, this hasn't stopped them making grandiose promises and hyping the game to the moon and back.

Let's not even discuss Shin Megami Tensai x Fire Emblem; over 2 years since announcement, and not a single shred of material to show for itself.

Bottom line: don't tell, show.


hype trains are the worst thing possible for a game. Look at what happened with Watchdogs and Destiny and many other games. People were bottle fed everything about the game before it even showed up and when launch happened nobody even liked what they saw. Because the hype train made them believe that the games would be the greatest thing in the history of humanity.



curl-6 on 19 March 2015
bunchanumbers said:
curl-6 said:

What is it with companies these days announcing a game, then going into radio silence for months and months on end, letting the hype die away instead of maintaining it, all the while assuring us that it's "coming along well" but showing nothing to substantiate such claims?

Look at Nintendo; we have seen absolutely nothing of Yoshi's Woolly World, Devil's Third, or Starfox since E3... 9 months ago. They tell us Devil's Third looks "so much better now", yet provide not so much as a screenshot to prove it. Is it really so hard to just take a sceen or two and post them to twitter, just to throw us a bone?

Then there's The Last Guardian, which Sony tells us every year is still in the works, yet hasn't actually been seen in nearly six years. It's become a running joke.

And don't even get me started on FAST Racing Neo. First they tell us the first media is coming in "early 2014"; what we got was three measly screenshots, in September. They said the game itself was "coming 2014", yet here we are, 3 months into 2015, and we still don't have so much as a trailer. Then, a few weeks ago, they said new media was "being prepared". Guess what? It hasn't arrived, and last night when asked about it, they say they have "nothing to announce yet". Of course, this hasn't stopped them making grandiose promises and hyping the game to the moon and back.

Let's not even discuss Shin Megami Tensai x Fire Emblem; over 2 years since announcement, and not a single shred of material to show for itself.

Bottom line: don't tell, show.


hype trains are the worst thing possible for a game. Look at what happened with Watchdogs and Destiny and many other games. People were bottle fed everything about the game before it even showed up and when launch happened nobody even liked what they saw. Because the hype train made them believe that the games would be the greatest thing in the history of humanity.

It doesn't have to be a hype train, just a decent feed of info instead of starving us, or over-promising without backing up their claims with evidence.



Frogger on 19 March 2015
curl-6 said:


In all seriousness though, this is what I think whenever someone says that a delay is good. No, delays are not good. It doesn't mean that the game should come out later; it means that the game should have been announced later. There's no reason any game this day and age should be announced much more than 6 months before its release. If the game isn't damn near finished, you have no business announcing it.



Samus Aran on 19 March 2015

Actually Nintendo often spoils their entire game before it's even released, that annoys me.

90% of the DKC: TF levels were shown off by the time the game released.



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IkePoR on 19 March 2015

Jim Sterling has been saying this very thing in his weekly show for some time now, about Square-Enix in particular. A company more excited about wanting you to get excited for an announcement of an announcement than actually working on the 35 games they have in development at one time.



"You should be banned. Youre clearly flaming the president and even his brother who you know nothing about. Dont be such a partisan hack"

Tachikoma on 19 March 2015

in all fairness, Nintendo dangles the games like a proverbial carrot, Sony are only mentioning TLG when hounded about it.
That's a key difference when comparing how companies are handling customer interaction.



curl-6 on 19 March 2015
Tachikoma said:
in all fairness, Nintendo dangles the games like a proverbial carrot, Sony are only mentioning TLG when hounded about it.
That's a key difference when comparing how companies are handling customer interaction.

That's part of the problem though, it's been 6 years, at this point Sony should either admit it's cancelled, or just bloody show us something. E3 2009 was a long time ago.



Ruler on 19 March 2015

I think with the last guardian there was a problem internally with the studio, the main creator also left at the time for example. These studios are human beings too as a collective after all.



curl-6 on 19 March 2015
IkePoR said:

Jim Sterling has been saying this very thing in his weekly show for some time now, about Square-Enix in particular. A company more excited about wanting you to get excited for an announcement of an announcement than actually working on the 35 games they have in development at one time.

God that sounds just like Shin'en at the moment haha; they're even doing the Squeenix thing of making too many games at once instead of just finishing the ones they announced ages ago.

And Nintendo too; "we will share more with you at E3." *Six months before E3*