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fatslob-:O on 18 March 2015
Kowan said:

The order and FFXV both have over 100k polygons per character but FFXV's looks amazing even in gameplay. The order has better details due to the characters design but I think FFXV's demo version models are a bit more realistic specially in terms of lighting, animation and hair. Come final version and I expect it to be even better.

But like I said, if you don't think so then so be it. You can keep on saying this or that looks better but I'm still gonna stick to my own preferences.

Superior because of character design ?! LOL ...

No man, The Order flat out DESTROYS FFXV from a technical standpoint and it's not even a question ...

What's so realistic about FFXV character models having an inferior subsurface scattering model and inferior hair shader ? 

Don't even get me started on shadow mapping techniques either. FFXV is stuck with PCF garbage while The Order got some godly EVSM ...

Yes, keep to your preferences while I'll stick to the ground truth ...



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Kowan on 18 March 2015
fatslob-:O said:
Kowan said:

The order and FFXV both have over 100k polygons per character but FFXV's looks amazing even in gameplay. The order has better details due to the characters design but I think FFXV's demo version models are a bit more realistic specially in terms of lighting, animation and hair. Come final version and I expect it to be even better.

But like I said, if you don't think so then so be it. You can keep on saying this or that looks better but I'm still gonna stick to my own preferences.

Superior because of character design ?! LOL ...

No man, The Order flat out DESTROYS FFXV from a technical standpoint and it's not even a question ...

What's so realistic about FFXV character models having an inferior subsurface scattering model and inferior hair shader ? 

Don't even get me started on shadow mapping techniques either. FFXV is stuck with PCF garbage while The Order got some godly EVSM ...

Yes, keep to your preferences while I'll stick to the ground truth ...


Ok, whatever you say.



fatslob-:O on 18 March 2015
Kowan said:


Ok, whatever you say.

Likewise ...



Hynad on 18 March 2015
fatslob-:O said:
Kowan said:

The order and FFXV both have over 100k polygons per character but FFXV's looks amazing even in gameplay. The order has better details due to the characters design but I think FFXV's demo version models are a bit more realistic specially in terms of lighting, animation and hair. Come final version and I expect it to be even better.

But like I said, if you don't think so then so be it. You can keep on saying this or that looks better but I'm still gonna stick to my own preferences.

Superior because of character design ?! LOL ...

No man, The Order flat out DESTROYS FFXV from a technical standpoint and it's not even a question ...

What's so realistic about FFXV character models having an inferior subsurface scattering model and inferior hair shader ? 

Don't even get me started on shadow mapping techniques either. FFXV is stuck with PCF garbage while The Order got some godly EVSM ...

Yes, keep to your preferences while I'll stick to the ground truth ...

And you say I'm a bitter person... LOL!!!!!!!!



fatslob-:O on 18 March 2015
Hynad said:

And you say I'm a bitter person... LOL!!!!!!!!

I still think you are considering that you were peevish enough to still bring up 2 month old content around the internet ...



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Hynad on 18 March 2015
fatslob-:O said:
Hynad said:

And you say I'm a bitter person... LOL!!!!!!!!

I still think you are considering that you were peevish enough to still bring up 2 month old content around the internet ...

Well, do us all a service and read your comments as if they were written to you.

And then wonder why you and I could never get along. 


Here's an obligatory LOL at you since that's how you roll. -__-



Hynad on 18 March 2015
zero129 said:
Chazore said:

No, but I do find it wrong that there are people ehre and elsewhere that try to cover up the standards their favourite dev/company have set themselevs this generation. This generation was deliberately marketed as 1080p 60fps, I cannot stress how often I've seen so much talk from devs and company avdertisements stressing how 1080p 60fps makes games so much better, something PC users have been saying for years and everyone ignored them but when a console markets the same thing it;s apparently fine and applauded, then when they can't reach what they set out the fans are quick to cover their asses with "res doesn't matter/fps doesn't matter/high polygons/graphics in general don't matter", all while devs make excuses of their own and they never ever once go back to what they said and admit they dun goofed and that they were sorry they had reached their limtiations that they should have been well aware of, none of that is hardly mentioned because it would bring fans down to a dark reality that what they bought into might not actually be as good as it was marketed to be.

Take a look at Nvidia fans having a big go at Nvidia over the GTX 970, it was marketed as having a solid 4gb memory yet it doesn't have it all and people are going nuts to them, every time I hear PS4 is 900p 30fps there are always people there to cover them with weak excuses instead of admitting that the devs suck at coding, look at ubisoft and their team with the list of released extremely buggy games.

I don't find it wrong at all to hold a dev/company to the standards they set because if they want to promise and market you something then they had better keep to their word, there's no real going back on something like that since they know it would hurt them in the longrun.

Best post in this thread imo and i also feel the same way im getting sick of fans making up excuses for their fav companys like its their lively hood that depends on it..

The game is running on an early version of their engine. They have also said that they target 1080p for the final game.

What's there to cry about? It's a demo we're talking about here. A demo from a game coming out in quite some time from now. 

What's the problem? Who's giving excuses? Not the fans. In fact, I'd say it's the opposite. Haters are quick to find excuses to downplay everything, even when they're not even interested in the damn game to begin with.



fatslob-:O on 18 March 2015
Hynad said:

Well, do us all a service and read your comments as if they were written to you.

And then wonder why you and I could never get along. 

Here's an obligatory LOL at you since that's how you roll. -__-

The problem isn't on me as to why you don't like me, it's on you ... 

The reason why we could never get along is because you get easily exasperated over nothing and you were prone to outbursts for no good reason either. You should ask yourself why you don't get along with this community instead of laying the blame towards others ... 

Just how much resentful are you going to keep getting towards others ? 



Hynad on 18 March 2015
fatslob-:O said:
Hynad said:

Well, do us all a service and read your comments as if they were written to you.

And then wonder why you and I could never get along. 

Here's an obligatory LOL at you since that's how you roll. -__-

The problem isn't on me as to why you don't like me, it's on you ... 

The reason why we could never get along is because you get easily exasperated over nothing and you were prone to outbursts for no good reason either. You should ask yourself why you don't get along with this community instead of laying the blame towards others ... 

Just how much resentful are you going to keep getting towards others ? 

I resent people who laugh at other people's opinion and mock them in the way you do. 

That's not on me. 



Kowan on 18 March 2015
zero129 said:
Kowan said:
fatslob-:O said:
I'm very disappointed in FFXV from a technical standpoint. Compared to FFXIII, it's less than groundbreaking when it isn't pushing any boundaries. Some of the textures look like a mess, less than impressive shaders, the lighting and the models are meh ...

Now this ...

I know this is a demo but this is getting pitiful considering a franchise of this pedigree ...


Really? The models are unparalled and the lighting is very realistic and dynamic.  Shadows when at night when objects are hit with your flashlight are smooth and in high resolution, even the shadow of the hair is very detailed with every textured strand having  shadows. Textures are all very high quality. The problem with the texturing is the AF(Anisotropic filtering), which is pretty nonexistent in the demo. AF makes textures clear and crisp in every angle. Without it, textures will not have a consistent quality in certain angles.

Not trying to be funny but doesnt pretty much every PS4 (Not sure about X1) game use Trailinear textureing? if so i dont see that aspect of FF15 improving , and all this does is show how much better the game will look on a device that would allow Anisotrpic filtering .

According to Sony's programmers, it's not a problem with the Ps4 but with the developers. The order did not suffer from the lack of AF. Dying Light was patched as well. I think it's mostly multipltform games that suffer AF issues on the PS4. 

 

I'm sure if many message the developers of FFXV specific issues from the demo, they will try to address it. They did say they wanted feedback from the demo.