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Hedra42 on 18 March 2015
kowenicki said:
Hedra42 said:
kowenicki said:
Hedra42 said:

Nintendo will be involved with making the games. In the conference they talked about a joint development team of Nintendo and DeNA people. Nintendo will still be dedicating resources, but just not as much as if they were doing it alone.

The massive stock rise is because investors believe that branching out into the mobile market makes sense.


because its a cash cow...  little outlay for potentailly huge returns. 

Investors have been hoping for this news for years, and now it has happened, they're buying. That's the reason for the stock rise. Whether it will be a cash cow for Nintendo remains to be seen, and that very much depends on how it all works out.

As Iwata said in the conference, the mobile market is a very competitive place - those few who succeed tend to be one-hit wonders. If Nintendo's games don't do well on mobile, then they would have failed in their strategy to use the exposure to a wider audience to boost console dedicated gaming.

I KNOW the mechanics of why the stock is rising... its supply and demand.  But why are the people buying?  Its because they see this as a potential cash cow.

So ultimately, the stock is rising becasue people see this as a cash cow.

A reasonable compromise!



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Teeqoz on 18 March 2015
Hedra42 said:
Teeqoz said:
justiceiro said:

Of course, there a lot of if, but in the same way that amiibo have close to no impact on selling more wiiu's and 3DS, nor do i believe that will help the main line console of nintendo at all,  unless nintendo do a really good of marketing using those games, but nintendo does good marketing?


Their goal here isn't to sell more Wii Us and 3DS from this, it is to make them a shit ton of money, which it will.

Iwata:

"Nintendo has decided to deploy its video game business on smart devices but it is not because we have lost passion or vision for the business of dedicated video game systems. On the contrary, now that we have decided how we will make use of smart devices, we have come to hold an even stronger passion and vision for the dedicated video game system business than ever before. Nintendo has made this decision because we have concluded that the approach of making use of smart devices is a rational way for us to encourage even more people around the world to recognize the great value of the wonderful game software available on our dedicated game systems." http://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2015/150317/03.html

That says to me they're using the mobile strategy to boost the console hardware and software.

 


Hmm, I hadn't seen that. But hey, what I said is probably what's gonna happen anyway so...



t3mporary_126 on 18 March 2015
kowenicki said:

70% is two days.

from 14.2 to 23.9


Oh wow that's crazy!

Oh and obligatory photo editing:



atomicblue on 18 March 2015

I don't really see this being a bad thing. The mobile market will be easy revenue for a company as well-known as them, and it doesn't generally have the high production costs associated with other forms of software development. The profits from that can probably help Nintendo to make more stuff for their dedicated games consoles, helping them to become more and more self-sufficient since a lot of third-parties have completely abandoned them at this point.



bunchanumbers on 18 March 2015
t3mporary_126 said:
kowenicki said:

70% is two days.

from 14.2 to 23.9


Oh wow that's crazy!

Oh and obligatory photo editing:

LOL! Hilarious!



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Hedra42 on 18 March 2015
kowenicki said:
Hedra42 said:
Teeqoz said:


Their goal here isn't to sell more Wii Us and 3DS from this, it is to make them a shit ton of money, which it will.

Iwata:

"Nintendo has decided to deploy its video game business on smart devices but it is not because we have lost passion or vision for the business of dedicated video game systems. On the contrary, now that we have decided how we will make use of smart devices, we have come to hold an even stronger passion and vision for the dedicated video game system business than ever before. Nintendo has made this decision because we have concluded that the approach of making use of smart devices is a rational way for us to encourage even more people around the world to recognize the great value of the wonderful game software available on our dedicated game systems." http://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2015/150317/03.html

That says to me they're using the mobile strategy to boost the console hardware and software.

 

To be fair its the same thing.  Making a shit ton of money means they can spend on the dedicated stuff.

That shit ton of money will end up being poured into a black hole if branching out into mobile ends up cheapening the ip and having the opposite effect to what is intended - which is what some fans fear. I think what many people haven't realised is that Nintendo are very much aware of this and are doing this slowly and cautiously. Apparently they're going to release  'at least one game this year', so we're looking at a similar release rate to what's happening on the Wii U. I wouldn't expect domination of the mobile markets just yet.

This is going to be a slow and careful approach.



S.Peelman on 18 March 2015

Wow. Insane news for sure. Iwata dropped some bombs, somebody pulled out that gif yet?

Impressive stock-rise aside, this could of course be huge for Nintendo. I was never really opposed to a move like this, if they remained smart about it. For now it looks like they will, and as a side business, I'm curious to see what they will bring.



Hedra42 on 18 March 2015
kowenicki said:
Hedra42 said:
kowenicki said:
 

To be fair its the same thing.  Making a shit ton of money means they can spend on the dedicated stuff.

That shit ton of money will end up being poured into a black hole if branching out into mobile ends up cheapening the ip and having the opposite effect to what is intended - which is what some fans fear. I think what many people haven't realised is that Nintendo are very much aware of this and are doing this slowly and cautiously. Apparently they're going to release  'at least one game this year', so we're looking at a similar release rate to what's happening on the Wii U. I wouldn't expect domination of the mobile markets just yet.

This is going to be a slow and careful approach.

Thats the beauty of it though.  One good app can make stupid amounts of money.  Then it dies fast.  So one or two a year is a good idea.


That's if the app takes off. These are new types of games, using existing ip.

Iwata: "The fact is, however, it is a highly competitive market and only a handful of content providers have been able to show enduring results. If Nintendo cannot make it to that handful of winners, it does not make sense for us to be engaged in the software business on smart devices." http://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2015/150317/02.html

This isn't the no-brainer that everybody thinks it is. They have what it takes to get it right and boost the dedicated console division as a result, and I'm excited about that, don't get me wrong, especially now they're partnered with DeNA. But whether that will work is another question.

I think it's quite reasonable for some fans to be fearful.



Dusk on 18 March 2015

Cause they don't own stock in Nintendo? Lol



Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

MegaDrive08 on 18 March 2015

Why dont they just release stuff like Brain Age & Training, even stuff like Nintendogs and Art Academy, even stufff from nes/snes. They need to be really smart about this.