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sc94597 said:
binary solo said:
sc94597 said:

Except this is not an internet block. It is an account block. I'm almost sure that if I had a Verizon account that has HBO GO and tried using it on a PS4 connected to Comcast I will be able to view the content in question. Nowhere did it say it was ISP based, just HBO subscriber based. Comcast provides the subscription that they are using to log in. Without the subscription, you can't log in. 

 

That's irrelevant. The only reason Comcast can block access is because it is that person's ISP, no other reason.  

You are wrong! I already clarified this countless times. It is Comcast's position as the subscription seller (they sell the subscription to the consumer in a cable package) which allows them to not participate in the application on other platforms. The ISP and internet has nothing to do with it. If I were using Verizon internet, I still wouldn't be able to us my Comcast HBO subscription to log in. You can't use it because they are not an option on the drop down menu. Learn what you are talking about, please. I'm not continuing with you until you do. I've already attempted twice to tell you how this works. 

Is that true? it seems to me that on the PS4 app you can select any cable provider and it won't matter who your ISP is. So basically if you are on Comcast internet but get on HBOGo through a different cable provider you will be OK. But if you are on a differnt ISP and have a comcast HBO subscription you're stuffed. Very odd.

So it does appear I have the wrong end of the stick, soory. Comcast has basically decided not to allow Comcast to be selected in the PS4 HBOGo app. If Comcast is selectable in all other HBOGo apps on other internet connected hardware (esp Xb 360 and one being directly competing hardware with PS)that's a different kind of issue, and one that perhaps is collusion between Comcast and MS. But in that context it would not be anti-competetive because no one is using their position as the controller of the utility service to determine how you access an web-based product.



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sc94597 said:
Basically, ask - if Comcast were not an internet service provider and only a cable company, could they still do this? The answer yes.


Do any cable companies that don't provide internet block HBO Go? If so I'd be surprised. They would do this at the risk of losing customers.

Comcast does because it sells budles of services. People aren't as likely to change their internet to change their cable. So since comcast has customers by the balls, they can demand money from middle men or block devices, figuring Microsoft, Roku, Sony, Amazon would rather have people on  their devices than not. Sony and Amazon haven't paid. Though with how the ps4 userbase is growing I think comcast will get more backlash than expected. And with HBO Now coming to apple devices and probably a few months later elsewhere. I hope they lose customers in the process



Comcast sucks, that's why I dropped it.



Wonktonodi said:
sc94597 said:
Basically, ask - if Comcast were not an internet service provider and only a cable company, could they still do this? The answer yes.


Do any cable companies that don't provide internet block HBO Go? If so I'd be surprised. They would do this at the rist of losing customers.

Comcast does because it sells budles of services. People aren't as likely to change their internet to change their cable. So since comcast has customers by the balls, they can demand money from middle men or block devices, figuring Microsoft, Roku, Sony, Amazon would rather have people on  their devices than not. Sony and Amazon haven't paid. Though with how the ps4 userbase is growing I think comcast will get more backlash than expected. And with HBO Now coming to apple devices and probably a few months later elsewhere. I hope they lose customers in the process

You know, honestly I'm okay with this. Comcast is THE major ISP/Cable in my area and literally everyone I know hates them, but they offer stupid fast internet and dish is iffy. 

 

All this means is Sony has a garunteed market welcoming Vue with open arms when it arrives. I need to save up a paycheck or two and reinvest in Sony stock before much longer. Could see it reaching $35 a share by end of 2015. Perhaps higher.



Wonktonodi said:
sc94597 said:
Basically, ask - if Comcast were not an internet service provider and only a cable company, could they still do this? The answer yes.


Do any cable companies that don't provide internet block HBO Go? If so I'd be surprised. They would do this at the risk of losing customers.

Well yeah, I can't disagree that it is a poor buisness decision. And I'm no fan of Comcast (had to write a letter to their collection agency last summer for my roommate and I, and the collection agency dropped it.) We dropped their internet, and now my roommate and I just tether from our phones for everything. It's faster than the basic internet we were getting from comcast anyway (from 3mbps down, 1mbps up to 30 mbps down 3 mbps up, on average.) I just wanted to make it clear that their activities aren't necessary illegal. One might argue an anti-competitive case, but then Comcast will point out hundreds of other companies that do similar stuff (exclusive deals.) 



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sc94597 said:
Wonktonodi said:
sc94597 said:
Basically, ask - if Comcast were not an internet service provider and only a cable company, could they still do this? The answer yes.


Do any cable companies that don't provide internet block HBO Go? If so I'd be surprised. They would do this at the risk of losing customers.

Well yeah, I can't disagree that it is a poor buisness decision. And I'm no fan of Comcast (had to write a letter to their collection agency last summer for my roommate and I, and the collection agency dropped it.) We dropped their internet, and now my roommate and I just tether from our phones for everything. It's faster than the basic internet we were getting from comcast anyway (from 3mbps down, 1mbps up to 30 mbps down 3 mbps up, on average.) I just wanted to make it clear that their activities aren't necessary illegal. One might argue an anti-competitive case, but then Comcast will point out hundreds of other companies that do similar stuff (exclusive deals.) 

oh indeed, many of the terrible things they due are outright legal and not even borderline , getting back to why I want them regulated like a utility lol, or in cases of the cable side, the FCC to do a better job defending consumers.



Wonktonodi said:
sc94597 said:
Wonktonodi said:
sc94597 said:
Basically, ask - if Comcast were not an internet service provider and only a cable company, could they still do this? The answer yes.


Do any cable companies that don't provide internet block HBO Go? If so I'd be surprised. They would do this at the risk of losing customers.

Well yeah, I can't disagree that it is a poor buisness decision. And I'm no fan of Comcast (had to write a letter to their collection agency last summer for my roommate and I, and the collection agency dropped it.) We dropped their internet, and now my roommate and I just tether from our phones for everything. It's faster than the basic internet we were getting from comcast anyway (from 3mbps down, 1mbps up to 30 mbps down 3 mbps up, on average.) I just wanted to make it clear that their activities aren't necessary illegal. One might argue an anti-competitive case, but then Comcast will point out hundreds of other companies that do similar stuff (exclusive deals.) 

oh indeed, many of the terrible things they due are outright legal and not even borderline , getting back to why I want them regulated like a utility lol, or in cases of the cable side, the FCC to do a better job defending consumers.

I'm wary of classifying things as a utility, because like television broadcasting that lends itself to government censorship. I would rather have what we have now than a presumably fairer more equitable internet that is subject to state censorship. 



sc94597 said:
Wonktonodi said:

oh indeed, many of the terrible things they due are outright legal and not even borderline , getting back to why I want them regulated like a utility lol, or in cases of the cable side, the FCC to do a better job defending consumers.

I'm wary of classifying things as a utility, because like television broadcasting that lends itself to government censorship. I would rather have what we have now than a presumably fairer more equitable internet that is subject to state censorship. 


There is already state censorship, but without the benefits of consumer protections. Right now with the various local monopolies, we get corporate censorship, extortion and often terrible service. Regulationg over what the companies that deliver the internet can do isn't the same as regulating the content on it.



Comcast is first rate garbage...I hope to god Playstation Vue is a good value...



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Normchacho said:
Comcast is first rate garbage...I hope to god Playstation Vue is a good value...

I'm hoping for the exact same.