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setsunatenshi on 27 February 2015
reggin_bolas said:
mornelithe said:

Aaaaaand bingo, if the crazy switch hadn't gone off in anybodies head yet, this should do it.

There's no proof of any extraterrestrial life, at this point in time.  Such evidence, would really fuck with the religious who think the Earth is the center of the Universe.


This isn't a thread about positivism and epistemology. I don't care what the scientific establishment thinks. You can't prove a negative anyway which is why atheism is illogical. 

This is a thread which requires a bit of imagination, and an open mind. Public knowledge of ET would indeed cause a ruckus. 


'you can't prova a negative anyway which is why atheism is illogical'

it's illogical to not believe in gods? lol please expand... let me get the popcorn



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Neodegenerate on 27 February 2015
reggin_bolas said:
mornelithe said:

 that principle.  Burden of proof rests upon you, to provide evidence to suggest extraterrestrial civilizations exist, AND that they have somehow purged X from their societies.  Otherwise, there's that whole celestial teapot argument.

Onus probandi? Teapot analogy? Someone has studied Bertrand Russell. You realize his entire family went insane, many committing suicide? Even the philosopher himself admitted that Thomas proof of God was sound. 

I don't need any of that because you seem to conflate my thread dedicated to meta-physics with positivist scientism which was engendered for the express purpose of removing meta-physics from science.

 

 

 

 

 


So tell me, which side of the family are you from? 



AZWification on 27 February 2015

This thread is simply a joy to read!



                
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reggin_bolas on 27 February 2015
setsunatenshi said:
reggin_bolas said:


This isn't a thread about positivism and epistemology. I don't care what the scientific establishment thinks. You can't prove a negative anyway which is why atheism is illogical. 

This is a thread which requires a bit of imagination, and an open mind. Public knowledge of ET would indeed cause a ruckus. 


'you can't prova a negative anyway which is why atheism is illogical'

it's illogical to not believe in gods? lol please expand... let me get the popcorn


Because atheism relies on the absolute belief in the nonexistence of a Creator or God. Nonexistence is impossible to prove. Existence of God isn't. It's been done before. Thomas did it. Artistotle did it with the unmoved mover. Modal logic proves it by a reductio ad absurdum. 



Aura7541 on 27 February 2015
reggin_bolas said:

Because atheism relies on the absolute belief in the nonexistence of a Creator or God. Nonexistence is impossible to prove. Existence of God isn't. It's been done before. Thomas did it. Artistotle did it with the unmoved mover. Modal logic proves it by a reductio ad absurdum. 

Atheism is the rejection of the belief in deities. Rejection does not necessarily mean absolute belief in nonexistance. The fact that you did not properly learn the definition of atheism really shows your irrational bias.



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Turkish on 27 February 2015

Do you have some summary or tl;dr version? Im kinda busy building something epic dont have time to read too much


pls



Panther111 on 27 February 2015

Theres no flowers saing gay is bad... No declaration from the sky with the clouds forming letters spillng the "truth". No earthly vibrations that creates coded sound of how wrong some may say it is.

People believe it to be wrong because of social constructions, and unfortunately, many of the social constructions which are solely created by people in this endless universe, decide to spew hate and misery... I find homophobia weird...



setsunatenshi on 27 February 2015
reggin_bolas said:
setsunatenshi said:


'you can't prova a negative anyway which is why atheism is illogical'

it's illogical to not believe in gods? lol please expand... let me get the popcorn


Because atheism relies on the absolute belief in the nonexistence of a Creator or God. Nonexistence is impossible to prove. Existence of God isn't. It's been done before. Thomas did it. Artistotle did it with the unmoved mover. Modal logic proves it by a reductio ad absurdum. 


1- beliefs don't require proof, just like you have demonstrated when you brought up extraterrestrials into one of your posts above.

2- atheism is not a positive claim, it's a  rejection of a positive claim (there are gods/ i don't believe it).

3- existence of god isn't impossible to prove, you say? good, go ahead i'm all ears

4- who is this thomas you speak of? aristotle? what does aristotle have to do with any of this? please expand.

 

thank you



beeje13 on 27 February 2015

Well, we've heard it all today folks. Believing in freedom is apparently a curse, a secret dark, movement known, as of today, as 'Positivism'.

Also, in today's highlights, we found out how advanced Alien species got rid of homosexuality to ascend to paradise, and being an Atheist is in fact Illogical.

Stay tuned for more VGChartz!



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reggin_bolas on 27 February 2015
Aura7541 said:
reggin_bolas said:

Because atheism relies on the absolute belief in the nonexistence of a Creator or God. Nonexistence is impossible to prove. Existence of God isn't. It's been done before. Thomas did it. Artistotle did it with the unmoved mover. Modal logic proves it by a reductio ad absurdum. 

Atheism is the rejection of the belief in deities. Rejection does not necessarily mean absolute belief in nonexistance. The fact that you did not properly learn the definition of atheism really shows your irrational bias.

From Merriam Webster Atheism is defined as:

a :  a disbelief in the existence of deity 

b :  the doctrine that there is no deity

The latter is the most damaging to your thesis. Even if we accept the former, you still have the onus probandi because you demand the same from theists. The only difference is that a theist can prove god. You can't prove a negative so your epistemology is severely crippled.