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JustBeingReal said:


Well actually PS4 destroyed Wii U for sales in Japan and everything else worldwide in 2014, because PS4 sold 14,020,685 between the 4th Jan 2014 to the 3rd of 2014, 3DS did 9,687,334, so PS4 sold 4,333,351 more globally than even the 3DS, it outsold every other console by an even bigger margin, that would be the definition of destroying everything else within the same time period.

PS4 is up, sales are increasing, which is what the numbers show and as I stated all of those games I mentioned are on their way in the next few weeks, there's also plenty of other games coming out this year, way more than the Wii U has incoming in Japan.

Dragon Quest Heroes is still a DQ game, it'll have sustained sales and a good boost at the beginning.

I'm ignoring nothing, VGChartz has PS4 at 1,089,117 for 51 weeks of sales, with the 52nd not being published yet, it sold 319,689 at launch in Japan, that means it's done 769,428 for 50 weeks of sales, the sales for the 15th to the 21st of Feb aren't yet known, but you're still majorly low-balling the figures to suit your agenda. The system has sold more than it did at launch throughout the rest of it's sales time, so I don't get your point.

 

The games we know about that are coming for Wii U aren't really huge sellers in Japan, not like Final Fantasy XV could be and it's seeming more and more likely that game is coming out this year.

Metal Gear 5 is coming out September 1st, I obviously mentioned all of those games coming in the next few weeks, GT7 will probably end up a 2015 release, Level 5 has a PS4 exclusive in development that they're going to announce at E3, which could very well come out in 2015 or at least release within the PS4's 2nd year in Japan.

Dragon's Dogma Online, Deep Down, Let it Die, overall there's a lot more games coming to PS4 for Japan, that add up to a likely far bigger sales boost than you're giving them credit for. PS4 will sell more than 2.2M in Japan this year, simply by virtue the games that are confirmed for Japan.

The fact the PS4 has been doing as well as it has, selling 3X the amount most weeks in Japan compared to Wii U only supports that sales will sky rocket when the games suited to the market start releasing over there, we have confirmed release dates for a load of games and it's known more are definitely coming out over there this year and as is customary for Playstation once that starts happening it doesn't stop throughout the whole generation.

 

It's not like PS4 has one or two games confirmed and there will be months of drought in games releases in Japan, it's constant throughout this year and that isn't going to end with what we currently have confirmed, more will be confirmed later.

If you think Wii U is going to surpass PS4 in sales in Japan, you haven't looked at the facts.

Again, Ps4 sales didn't destroy anything in japan, it's the lowest selling console since dreamcast and ps3 (I'm not counting xbox consoles).

Launch week aside, Wii U sold 1.3 million in 56-57 weeks, ps4 will have done around 950k on the same period.

DQ heroes will be hugely front loaded, like any dinasty warriors. Don't expect much more than 300k ltd for the ps4 version.

"The fact the PS4 has been doing as well as it has, selling 3X the amount most weeks in Japan compared to Wii U only supports that sales will sky rocket when the games suited to the market start releasing over there"

Except that ps4's current sales are already a response to your "when games suited to the market release" while wii u is in a low period.

"If you think Wii U is going to surpass PS4 in sales in Japan, you haven't looked at the facts."

Ps4 is the one that has to surpass wii u, since it's a lot behind. If you're talking weekly, it's pretty obvious that wii u will sell more than ps4 eventualy.



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Materia-Blade said:

"There's a reason WiiU hasn't gotten a single PS4/XBO port that's not cross gen. "

The reason is bribery.

"Why do you think Kingdom Hearts 3 wasn't announced for WiiU? With all the Disney characters, it seems like a great match for the console. And yet they even chose Xbox One over WiiU"

Same as above, Square didn't "choose".


Wait so you think MS and Sony threw together some sort of "here´s some money for you to release your game on whatever platform you want as long as its not a Nintendo Home console"-fund?



      
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Materia-Blade said:
JustBeingReal said:


Well actually PS4 destroyed Wii U for sales in Japan and everything else worldwide in 2014, because PS4 sold 14,020,685 between the 4th Jan 2014 to the 3rd of 2014, 3DS did 9,687,334, so PS4 sold 4,333,351 more globally than even the 3DS, it outsold every other console by an even bigger margin, that would be the definition of destroying everything else within the same time period.

PS4 is up, sales are increasing, which is what the numbers show and as I stated all of those games I mentioned are on their way in the next few weeks, there's also plenty of other games coming out this year, way more than the Wii U has incoming in Japan.

Dragon Quest Heroes is still a DQ game, it'll have sustained sales and a good boost at the beginning.

I'm ignoring nothing, VGChartz has PS4 at 1,089,117 for 51 weeks of sales, with the 52nd not being published yet, it sold 319,689 at launch in Japan, that means it's done 769,428 for 50 weeks of sales, the sales for the 15th to the 21st of Feb aren't yet known, but you're still majorly low-balling the figures to suit your agenda. The system has sold more than it did at launch throughout the rest of it's sales time, so I don't get your point.

 

The games we know about that are coming for Wii U aren't really huge sellers in Japan, not like Final Fantasy XV could be and it's seeming more and more likely that game is coming out this year.

Metal Gear 5 is coming out September 1st, I obviously mentioned all of those games coming in the next few weeks, GT7 will probably end up a 2015 release, Level 5 has a PS4 exclusive in development that they're going to announce at E3, which could very well come out in 2015 or at least release within the PS4's 2nd year in Japan.

Dragon's Dogma Online, Deep Down, Let it Die, overall there's a lot more games coming to PS4 for Japan, that add up to a likely far bigger sales boost than you're giving them credit for. PS4 will sell more than 2.2M in Japan this year, simply by virtue the games that are confirmed for Japan.

The fact the PS4 has been doing as well as it has, selling 3X the amount most weeks in Japan compared to Wii U only supports that sales will sky rocket when the games suited to the market start releasing over there, we have confirmed release dates for a load of games and it's known more are definitely coming out over there this year and as is customary for Playstation once that starts happening it doesn't stop throughout the whole generation.

 

It's not like PS4 has one or two games confirmed and there will be months of drought in games releases in Japan, it's constant throughout this year and that isn't going to end with what we currently have confirmed, more will be confirmed later.

If you think Wii U is going to surpass PS4 in sales in Japan, you haven't looked at the facts.

Again, Ps4 sales didn't destroy anything in japan, it's the lowest selling console since dreamcast and ps3 (I'm not counting xbox consoles).

Launch week aside, Wii U sold 1.3 million in 56-57 weeks, ps4 will have done around 950k on the same period.

DQ heroes will be hugely front loaded, like any dinasty warriors. Don't expect much more than 300k ltd for the ps4 version.

"The fact the PS4 has been doing as well as it has, selling 3X the amount most weeks in Japan compared to Wii U only supports that sales will sky rocket when the games suited to the market start releasing over there"

Except that ps4's current sales are already a response to your "when games suited to the market release" while wii u is in a low period.

"If you think Wii U is going to surpass PS4 in sales in Japan, you haven't looked at the facts."

Ps4 is the one that has to surpass wii u, since it's a lot behind. If you're talking weekly, it's pretty obvious that wii u will sell more than ps4 eventualy.


PS4 destroyed Wii U last year, PS4 destroyed all platforms in Japan last year, even the 3DS, that's what the numbers proved.

We haven't yet had PS4's 56th-57th week numbers yet, you don't know what it will sell, if anything the fact it has so many games coming within that amount of time, DQH (released 26th Feb 2015) is a game coming out in that time and according to you it's numbers will be very front loaded, so it will have some effect on PS4's numbers, probably a pretty decent effect.

PS4 can and probably will easily sell more than 1.3M by the end of that 57 week sales period, but you won't agree with that because Wii U is your preference of system. PS4 doesn't just have DQH, although it doesn't just look like a Dynasty Warriors clone, there's a lot more too it than that.

 

The whole point of my "when games suited to the market" point is that PS4 has new games, a lot of new games incoming right now and for the forseeable future, the Wii U doesn't, Wii U has a few here and there, but nothing like the PS4 is getting, even for the rest of the year, compared to the next few months on PS4. PS4 numbers I'm talking about though are based on before DQH and the slew of PS4 games were coming, DQH comes out on the 26th of Feb, VG's numbers are for the 14th or prior to that, so really it's not heated up on PS4 yet, but will when those games start to land, basically the baseline is 3X greater than Wii U's numbers.

 

PS4 has sold 1/2 of Wii U's numbers in less than half of the time, with a weaker line-up and is just about to start getting the good games for the japanese market, it's downright clear that the ball is in PS4's court, it's going to sell a hell of a lot more than the Wii U when 3rd party and exclusives start to land on the system, which has already started to happen, we should start getting those number soon.

We've had numbers up to the 14th of Feb, the next is the week ending the 21st (which we don't have yet), the following week ends the 28th, that will show how well DQH sold. From then on there are regular releases, which should have a continuous snowball effect, because the library for the market is building.

It's going to be impossible for the Wii U to sell more, especially without 3rd party, especially those games suited to that market. I really can't see why you would think only having exclusives would cause that much of a rise, especially when PS4 has been selling so much on weeks when there's very little new stuff out, but whatever think what you will.



JustBeingReal said:


PS4 destroyed Wii U last year, PS4 destroyed all platforms in Japan last year, even the 3DS, that's what the numbers proved.

We haven't yet had PS4's 56th-57th week numbers yet, you don't know what it will sell, if anything the fact it has so many games coming within that amount of time, DQH (released 26th Feb 2015) is a game coming out in that time and according to you it's numbers will be very front loaded, so it will have some effect on PS4's numbers, probably a pretty decent effect.

PS4 can and probably will easily sell more than 1.3M by the end of that 57 week sales period, but you won't agree with that because Wii U is your preference of system. PS4 doesn't just have DQH, although it doesn't just look like a Dynasty Warriors clone, there's a lot more too it than that.

 

The whole point of my "when games suited to the market" point is that PS4 has new games, a lot of new games incoming right now and for the forseeable future, the Wii U doesn't, Wii U has a few here and there, but nothing like the PS4 is getting, even for the rest of the year, compared to the next few months on PS4. PS4 numbers I'm talking about though are based on before DQH and the slew of PS4 games were coming, DQH comes out on the 26th of Feb, VG's numbers are for the 14th or prior to that, so really it's not heated up on PS4 yet, but will when those games start to land, basically the baseline is 3X greater than Wii U's numbers.

 

PS4 has sold 1/2 of Wii U's numbers in less than half of the time, with a weaker line-up and is just about to start getting the good games for the japanese market, it's downright clear that the ball is in PS4's court, it's going to sell a hell of a lot more than the Wii U when 3rd party and exclusives start to land on the system, which has already started to happen, we should start getting those number soon.

We've had numbers up to the 14th of Feb, the next is the week ending the 21st (which we don't have yet), the following week ends the 28th, that will show how well DQH sold. From then on there are regular releases, which should have a continuous snowball effect, because the library for the market is building.

It's going to be impossible for the Wii U to sell more, especially without 3rd party, especially those games suited to that market. I really can't see why you would think only having exclusives would cause that much of a rise, especially when PS4 has been selling so much on weeks when there's very little new stuff out, but whatever think what you will.

We are talking about japan and ps4 didn't destroy anything there.

"PS4 has sold 1/2 of Wii U's numbers in less than half of the time" So did Wii U itself, ps4 is bellow Wii U in aligned sales.

I won't even bother with the rest, you are just repeating yourself without listening.



Materia-Blade said:
JustBeingReal said:


PS4 destroyed Wii U last year, PS4 destroyed all platforms in Japan last year, even the 3DS, that's what the numbers proved.

We haven't yet had PS4's 56th-57th week numbers yet, you don't know what it will sell, if anything the fact it has so many games coming within that amount of time, DQH (released 26th Feb 2015) is a game coming out in that time and according to you it's numbers will be very front loaded, so it will have some effect on PS4's numbers, probably a pretty decent effect.

PS4 can and probably will easily sell more than 1.3M by the end of that 57 week sales period, but you won't agree with that because Wii U is your preference of system. PS4 doesn't just have DQH, although it doesn't just look like a Dynasty Warriors clone, there's a lot more too it than that.

 

The whole point of my "when games suited to the market" point is that PS4 has new games, a lot of new games incoming right now and for the forseeable future, the Wii U doesn't, Wii U has a few here and there, but nothing like the PS4 is getting, even for the rest of the year, compared to the next few months on PS4. PS4 numbers I'm talking about though are based on before DQH and the slew of PS4 games were coming, DQH comes out on the 26th of Feb, VG's numbers are for the 14th or prior to that, so really it's not heated up on PS4 yet, but will when those games start to land, basically the baseline is 3X greater than Wii U's numbers.

 

PS4 has sold 1/2 of Wii U's numbers in less than half of the time, with a weaker line-up and is just about to start getting the good games for the japanese market, it's downright clear that the ball is in PS4's court, it's going to sell a hell of a lot more than the Wii U when 3rd party and exclusives start to land on the system, which has already started to happen, we should start getting those number soon.

We've had numbers up to the 14th of Feb, the next is the week ending the 21st (which we don't have yet), the following week ends the 28th, that will show how well DQH sold. From then on there are regular releases, which should have a continuous snowball effect, because the library for the market is building.

It's going to be impossible for the Wii U to sell more, especially without 3rd party, especially those games suited to that market. I really can't see why you would think only having exclusives would cause that much of a rise, especially when PS4 has been selling so much on weeks when there's very little new stuff out, but whatever think what you will.

We are talking about japan and ps4 didn't destroy anything there.

"PS4 has sold 1/2 of Wii U's numbers in less than half of the time" So did Wii U itself, ps4 is bellow Wii U in aligned sales.

I won't even bother with the rest, you are just repeating yourself without listening.


Yes PS4 did destroy other platforms for hardware sales last year in Japan, including Wii U, PS4 isn't at it's peak yet, because it hasn't had the best games suited for the market yet, this year will be far better, that's a fact.

PS4 isn't below Wii U in aligned numbers, it's ahead and will continue to rise based on the games we know to be coming out this year.

I read everything (not sure how you can listen to something that doesn't make a sound), took it all in and dealt with every point you tried to make, you just don't like what the facts support. Wii U isn't as popular as PS4 is in Japan or globally, which is what the sales figures show. TBH it wouldn't even matter if Wii U was beating PS4 in Japan, because it's a tiny market compared to the rest of the world.

The platform has sold over 2X as many consoles, along with nearly 2X the software globally, which is what matters in a sales debate and PS4 has a lot more games scheduled for release in Japan.

 

As far as this thread goes the topic's question is answered, PS4 will most definitely sell better in Japan, Wii U is a system on the decline in sales in Japan, while PS4 is on the rise.

BTW I'm actually going to buy a Wii U, when Zelda and Starfox come out, because I want to play those games, there are a number other titles I want to play on Wii U too, I actually consider Wii U the only 8th gen console worth owning besides a PS4 this generation, because of it's exclusives, I'm just realistic about how well Wii U can sell. It'll be profitable for Nintendo, which is all that matters for Nintendo and they have some great games coming for their install base on the platform.



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JustBeingReal said:
Materia-Blade said:

We are talking about japan and ps4 didn't destroy anything there.

"PS4 has sold 1/2 of Wii U's numbers in less than half of the time" So did Wii U itself, ps4 is bellow Wii U in aligned sales.

I won't even bother with the rest, you are just repeating yourself without listening.


Yes PS4 did destroy other platforms for hardware sales last year in Japan, including Wii U, PS4 isn't at it's peak yet, because it hasn't had the best games suited for the market yet, this year will be far better, that's a fact.

PS4 isn't below Wii U in aligned numbers, it's ahead and will continue to rise based on the games we know to be coming out this year.

I read everything (not sure how you can listen to something that doesn't make a sound), took it all in and dealt with every point you tried to make, you just don't like what the facts support. Wii U isn't as popular as PS4 is in Japan or globally, which is what the sales figures show. TBH it wouldn't even matter if Wii U was beating PS4 in Japan, because it's a tiny market compared to the rest of the world.

The platform has sold over 2X as many consoles, along with nearly 2X the software globally, which is what matters in a sales debate and PS4 has a lot more games scheduled for release in Japan.

 

As far as this thread goes the topic's question is answered, PS4 will most definitely sell better in Japan, Wii U is a system on the decline in sales in Japan, while PS4 is on the rise.

BTW I'm actually going to buy a Wii U, when Zelda and Starfox come out, because I want to play those games, there are a number other titles I want to play on Wii U too, I actually consider Wii U the only 8th gen console worth owning besides a PS4 this generation, because of it's exclusives, I'm just realistic about how well Wii U can sell. It'll be profitable for Nintendo, which is all that matters for Nintendo and they have some great games coming for their install base on the platform.

"PS4 isn't below Wii U in aligned numbers, it's ahead and will continue to rise based on the games we know to be coming out this year."

Are you seriously repeating that even after admitting wii u's first year was higher. wii u was at 1.6m afer 56-57 weeks and ps4 will be a little over 1.2m on the same number of weeks.



A few games from Square Enix will give the PS4 the boost it needs.



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Materia-Blade said:
JustBeingReal said:


Yes PS4 did destroy other platforms for hardware sales last year in Japan, including Wii U, PS4 isn't at it's peak yet, because it hasn't had the best games suited for the market yet, this year will be far better, that's a fact.

PS4 isn't below Wii U in aligned numbers, it's ahead and will continue to rise based on the games we know to be coming out this year.

I read everything (not sure how you can listen to something that doesn't make a sound), took it all in and dealt with every point you tried to make, you just don't like what the facts support. Wii U isn't as popular as PS4 is in Japan or globally, which is what the sales figures show. TBH it wouldn't even matter if Wii U was beating PS4 in Japan, because it's a tiny market compared to the rest of the world.

The platform has sold over 2X as many consoles, along with nearly 2X the software globally, which is what matters in a sales debate and PS4 has a lot more games scheduled for release in Japan.

 

As far as this thread goes the topic's question is answered, PS4 will most definitely sell better in Japan, Wii U is a system on the decline in sales in Japan, while PS4 is on the rise.

BTW I'm actually going to buy a Wii U, when Zelda and Starfox come out, because I want to play those games, there are a number other titles I want to play on Wii U too, I actually consider Wii U the only 8th gen console worth owning besides a PS4 this generation, because of it's exclusives, I'm just realistic about how well Wii U can sell. It'll be profitable for Nintendo, which is all that matters for Nintendo and they have some great games coming for their install base on the platform.

"PS4 isn't below Wii U in aligned numbers, it's ahead and will continue to rise based on the games we know to be coming out this year."

Are you seriously repeating that even after admitting wii u's first year was higher. wii u was at 1.6m afer 56-57 weeks and ps4 will be a little over 1.2m on the same number of weeks.


Are you seriously repeating that after I pointed out that PS4 hasn't even had numbers for the 52nd week of sales?

PS4 has a lot more games incoming than Wii U, which I previously mentioned in a reply to you. No PS4 will not be at just a little over 1.2M in 56-57 weeks, the games incoming will push it much higher than that in Japan.

Dragon Quest Heroes sold over 250K on PS4 at release, 46,139 of that were probably PS4's sold, which is what Media Create says. Souls is a huge seller in Japan, Bloodborne will probably do even better, FF T-0, etc, there's plenty of other games coming out by the end of March that will all have a combined and constant effect on sales.

 

You can't seriously be trying to argue otherwise when there are so many Japanese focused releases launching for PS4 in that amount of time, PS4 will definitely be ahead, it sold the figures we've been given, with virtually no games for Japan, the boost will be huge and there's also adjustments that need to be made to VG Chartz numbers, because PS4 was clearly undertracked.

PS4 sold 20.2M units globally, by the end of Feb globally, VG Chartz has the system at 19.4M by the 14th of Feb, there's no way it sold 800K in 2 weeks, but if it did Japan must have garnered at least a few 100K of those sales, so it's probably closer to 1.4M up until the 14th of Feb in Japan, it had already sold a little over 1M by the 8th of Jan, according to Media Create  (http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/01/08/ps4-sales-pass-one-million-units-in-japan-after-strong-otoshidama-week-and-a-year-of-highs-and-lows/), since then there have been more games out and Sony has made their announcement for 20.2M sales globally.

In all likelihood PS4 is more than likely ahead within the same period of time, that's what would make the most logical sense based on the current data we do have.



SpokenTruth said:
JustBeingReal said:

Long post......


PS4 at 51 weeks - 1,089,117 

Wii U at 51 weeks - 1,212,088

 

What exactly are you trying to argue for?


If you bothered to read then you'd know.

Also Wii U sold 1,163,226 in 51 weeks according to VG Chartz, the PS4 numbers haven't been adjusted yet, but they should actually be higher than Wii U's, based on VG Chartz undertracking PS4, it's sold over 20.2M globally, which is official from Sony, declared numbers by the end of Feb 2015, VGChartz has PS4 at 19.4M sold by the 14th of Feb, that means PS4 is undertracked by several 100K globally.



SpokenTruth said:
JustBeingReal said:

Long post......


PS4 at 51 weeks - 1,089,117 

Wii U at 51 weeks - 1,212,088

 

What exactly are you trying to argue for?

He isn't. And a few weeks later (after holidays for wii u) put wii u at 1.5-1.6m, a number ps4 may only reach after 70 weeks.