If only! I don't want "demos" only for shooters and to test online playability, I want to test the game itself! Thinking of it, I would really like a rental service like EA Access or PS+ or XBL Gold for every game for a certain number of games. Pay per month (not PSNow, that is, I want it on the actual console) for a, let's say, 5 games, and if I finished them, I can exchange for other games, while not owning any game. Or make it 3 games. Whatever. There is no reason in buying these games anymore if there is no actual replay value. But especially don't expect me to spend 60 euros to buy your too short, perhaps broken, unpatched mess of a game!

the game isnt too short, the price is just to high.  a 40$ price would be much better for the game. 

and they cant do a real renting service because tht would kill AAA games.

Yeah, I understand this. But the current situation is still unsatisfying, in my opinion.

so you're going to brush every sony fan with one opinion for your console war ammunition,for when UC4 comes out

most people are saying it isn't a 2/10,not saying it is a 9.5/10,the order is an average game 65/75 meta sounds fine to me

personally i'm happy the reviewers are downgrading scores form the stupidly high scores of last generation given out like candy

The Order was in development for like five years. They had plenty of time to make an appealing game. They just failed with this one.

of course LTD,you'd be mad to think this would open with 5m

the order will easily sell 1m,personally i'll buy it digital when it hits a sale

its a guaranteed PS plus game but that is most likely well over a year away

The game is bad. But you can like bad games.

Agreed. I suspect this game wouldn't have anywhere near as many defenders if it wasn't an exclusive.

I mean, look at the reaction to exclusives like The Order and Driveclub scoring low compared to the reaction to multiplats like Assassin's Creed Unity or Dying Light scoring low.

I quoted what you said. You asked the quesiton, "If sales show quality..." thus inpying that we must use the same mesure of quaility when talking about Wii Fit sales.

But it was you that asked the quesiton in the first place. Sales show interests in a game. It shows that reviews don't have the same effect as they did  in the past. It shows that people are using their own mind instead of beliving everthing that reviwers say.

That also means that you can also have a game that doesn't sall well, but to YOU is a great game.

Exactly. 1M to 2M is good in the next year. But for lifetime? Not sure.