The only one that really matters

Agreed and here is the even more relevant point...no one is FORCED to buy the bundle. It will not be the only option. So if someone CHOOSES to buy the bundle witht he game then that is what they wanted that game. I never bought a LBP PS bundle nor a GT ps bundle when they were available. Because while they are great games they are not my cup of tea.

My point being rather a game is bundled or not a sale is a sale because someone CHOSE to buy the bundle over the standalone because it came with a game they wanted. The bundle argument isilly and always has been....period.

Very ironic that you expect to be taken seriously considering MS is the one that bundled far more games last gen and this gen than Sony. Tlou relied on bundling? I'm sure its sales had nothing to do with the fact that it was the most highly acclaimed game of last generation with over 200 awards. Nope. And then, there's the fact that it released at the end of last gen, so you're saying it had to rely on bundling to sell that well despite console sales already being exhausted? Funny. MS bundles every halo game, every gears game and even goes so far as to release custom console and controller designs to spur sales and appeal to collectors. Yet somehow its the OTHER guys that rely on bundling. 

Oh wait. How many official bundles has MS had this gen? How many has Sony done? Can someone please figure this out bc I'm on mobile and I bet I already know that answer. Stop reaching breh

Heres the thing though Halo is xbox's biggest game series, uncharted is not sonys its gran turismo which sells better than halo.

You have balls.

I disagree, say MSFT put Ryse in a bundle during this past holiday season. Would we all say those sales are stand alone from the games merits. There were several games receiving inflated sales this holiday due to being packed in during the highest selling time of the year. 

Well I was done with going back and forth with you is what i meant, but I will continue for a few more mintues. First off, the last of us might be the only game in history that was bundled twice, with two different releases, on 2 different platforms, within 1 year. Heck tlou was bundled during the holidays and is back bundled again now, after it was bundled during the initial release summer 2014. So how has tlou bundling been shot down, it has been budled almost consistently since June 2013 across ps3 and ps4.

I'm not sure if it's really that simple. Not every Xbox One owner cares about Halo and the same goes for Uncharted. The key to a Halo victory will be Base size. Simply calculate the tie ratios for Halo 4 and Uncharted 3 and multiple it against the imagined base at the time of release and go from there.

Anyone want to tackle this?

Guys calm down! This was a bet! Not something I was saying! Its ok to talk, but please keep this civilized!

IIRC didn't TLoU ship around 7.5 Million on the PS3 before the bundling began? The PS3 version of TLoU was never bundled heavily anyway, maybe the PS4 version. 

OT: For the first three months Halo 5 should take it easily.