No. Why would they do that? Sony doesn't even have an playstation app.
No. Why would they do that? Sony doesn't even have an playstation app.
Ruler said:
good riddance for the US you mean. Competing against companys who can spy on you and have allready built monopolys and online infastructure dueto historic reasons is not right. How does it benifit me as an europe for this scenrio in your ultra capitalist world? MS and google obligate to our rules or they can buzz off from our continent, like in china which was a good move by the chinese imo. |
Haha, cool. :)
| Ka-pi96 said: No, it's communism when other companies whinge like little bitches because someone else is doing better than them. Capitalism means the good companies become strong and the bad fail and die out, as they should. If they can't compete, then good riddance. |
Actually, your desire that the richest and most powerful companies can do whatever they want without any opposition would absolutely rip the heart out of fair capitalism. That's a horrible idea. We have anti-trust laws for extremely good reasons. A monopoly ONLY benefits the company that holds that monopoly. They are bad for consumers and for innovation.
I'd suggest checking out American history for why they are bad but we have another example close at hand--Internet Explorer 6.

What would Sony sue for? They do not have a Windows App that offers similar experiences. Valve won't have much standing since can't show that they are being hurt. So, what discriminatory practice is Microsoft doing to inhibit their success.
You have to remember a monopoly is not illegal. It is using that position to make it harder for others to enter the market through unfair practices. For example, giving manufacturers deep discounts for using their products or having a special set of API that only their programs to use which work much better while others are forced to use another API that not as good.
Microsoft does not have a monopoly on gaming. There are many viable competitors out there.
| Ruler said: MS and other american IT monopolies like google are facing alot of anti trust law suits in europe. In 2010 MS was even forced to give european users of windows a choice of various of webrbowser by installing it, only in 2014 they removed it again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrowserChoice.eu
I think in this mood in the EU it would be very smart by sony or valve or both to sue Microsoft in europe over their xbox app, it could dissapear and be an optional app for european users. Whats your opinion? I think they could have success. |
I think you vastly miss interpreted the anti trust law in general and even more the European court decision... They have zero basis in either case...
but beyond that a shit ton of the European laws are not enforced... Heck for example in Europe I own all my digital library on any device and can legally resell it on the second hand market and every company is suppose to make it possible to transfer digital licenses to users... Do you see iTune, google play, xbl, psn or amazon etc enabling, yet this is probably one of the biggest issue I consumer rights for today's economy...
so all in all with no basis a broken system and the slowness of the system even if you had an ounce of a chance on a miss understanding we'd be at Xbox 3 before anything happens...

| Ruler said: MS and other american IT monopolies like google are facing alot of anti trust law suits in europe. In 2010 MS was even forced to give european users of windows a choice of various of webrbowser by installing it, only in 2014 they removed it again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrowserChoice.eu I think in this mood in the EU it would be very smart by sony or valve or both to sue Microsoft in europe over their xbox app, it could dissapear and be an optional app for european users. Whats your opinion? I think they could have success. |
They cannot forbid MS to have an app that buyers of their games must use. In the case of IE, internet in itself isn´t MS´s product, therefore forcing buyers to accept IE was in violation of EU laws. That decision has been heavily questioned though.
And why would it be smart? Do you seriously think it is a good idea for companies to be so small minded and not even able to compete on the same level without resorting to using the court?
| kowenicki said: The EU is a joke, a self serving trough of over paid liberal elite morons. Haven't people worked that out yet? I love how the leaders of Europe spent 5 years telling the UK we were doing it wrong (wiht the Labour party here pointing to why we should be doing it like Europe too), and now... they are following what we did because most of them are still financial basket cases. Thank fuck we stayed out of that utter mess called monetary union. They havent got a clue, they are just power mad. |
So the UK did better? in comparison to what greece?
endimion said:
I think you vastly miss interpreted the anti trust law in general and even more the European court decision... They have zero basis in either case... but beyond that a shit ton of the European laws are not enforced... Heck for example in Europe I own all my digital library on any device and can legally resell it on the second hand market and every company is suppose to make it possible to transfer digital licenses to users... Do you see iTune, google play, xbl, psn or amazon etc enabling, yet this is probably one of the biggest issue I consumer rights for today's economy...
so all in all with no basis a broken system and the slowness of the system even if you had an ounce of a chance on a miss understanding we'd be at Xbox 3 before anything happens... |
Right to be forgotten got passed and that sounded impossible.
What. What does sony got to do with this?
And what's wrong with the Xbox App? I swear we can play Xbox games on windows 8.1 anyway.......as long as I have the xbl or something account which I don't.
I think monopolistic practices on the UE dont fly. And every company is better off beeing prepared for it.
The possibility of losing a law suit over it is big. I think that in some cases they are willing to take that risk and loss just to choke the competition until they are forced to comply. Shady practices.