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Is XB1 a failure?

Yes! 615 40.51%
 
No! 711 46.84%
 
Gimme dem numbers! 68 4.48%
 
I pity Wii U :( 121 7.97%
 
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kowenicki said:
The fact that this question is even asked shows how ridiculous gaming forums have become.

Mind explaining that? Judging from this thread alone, the answer isn't all that clear. I think it's an interesting discussion to be had.



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You know, the amount of consoles sold it currently has is supposed to mean the console is doing pretty good and will be fine but when I saw how aggressive they werein pricing and bundles during black Friday and the holidays I was pretty weary. It seems the current amount sold is not up to satisfaction of the company. Right now the price is back to $350, for how long? Probably forever



IFireflyl said:
DanneSandin said:

Obviously I am. Its quite clear that PS3 started to outsell X360 (with aligned launches) from early on. This means it was just a matter of time before PS3 caught up with X360, and I believe that was in... 2011? 2012? Little by little Sony chipped away the lead MS had built up with their head start. Its all there in the charts.

anyways, if you reply again, can you please trim the quote tree? Im on my phone now and cant myself


No they did not. PS3 launched in November of 2006. They sold 394,937 consoles in November. They sold 857,103 consoles in December. The Xbox 360 (which was already ahead by a few million units before November of 2006) sold 849,098 consoles in November. They sold 2,046,655 consoles in December. The 360 had been selling for a year. When the PS3 launched people still didn't want it like they wanted the Xbox 360. Be that price, games, etc the PS3 was nowhere near the 360 in terms of sales for the beginning, even if we don't look at the year of sales the 360 did before the PS3 even came out. The PS3 was not a failure, but it had the same thing happen to it that the Xbox One did... lower starting sales. That doesn't mean failure.

What that graph showed was the ALIGNED launches of PS3 and X360, that means you take both consoles numbers for their respective 1st year of sale and compare them, side by side. That would be 2005 for X360 vs 2006 for PS3, and what we then get is that PS3 had a better first year on the market than X360. Before we clear this up there's no point of making any further discussions. Do you understand where I'm coming from when I'm talking about aligned launches? Yes, X360 sold better in 2006 than PS3, but that's because they had a years head start, but I'm pretty sure that PS3 had a better second year than X360.



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yvanjean said:
DanneSandin said:

Little more than a year have now passed since both the PS4 and the Xbox One was released, and as we all know the PS4 is doing very well. But how about the Xbox One? Do you consider it a failure or  success for MS?

Let's just look at a few numbers before we start the argument discussion:

X360 had managed to sell close to 8m units by the end of 2006 after little more than a year on market. The XB1 on the other hand have managed to sell close to 11m units in the same time frame (before any adjustments).

That's a 3m difference between the both consoles. HOWEVER, while X360 managed to keep the same pace as PS3 (although, neither could keep up with Wii), XB1 have been left in the dust by PS4. But does this truly mean XB1 is a FAILURE?

XB1 is constantly outselling its predecessor, the X360, but can't compete with PS4. Does that mean it's a success or a failure?

Keep the discussion civil, do NOT troll or flame! This is an interesting discussion to be had, so don't ruin it!!

The Xbox one is a total success. Compare to their past effort this is Microsoft bestselling console and it's also profitable. 

 

You're comparing the 18.5 million PS4 sold to 11 million Xbox One. There are a few markets that will never support Xbox one like Japan and some European countries. If we look at only the two largest market in the world - UK and NA. 

North America (NA) - PS4 - 7.48 million (52.3%) vs Xbox One - 6.81 million (47.66%)

UK - PS4 - 1.81 million (55.52%) vs Xbox One - 1.45 million (44.48%) (Europe PS4 - 7.35 vs Xbox One 2.88)

 

UK and NA make ups:

9.29/18.5 = 50% of PS4 market

8.26/11 = 75% of Xbox One market

We all know that the PS4 is a massive success worldwide and one of the bestselling console to date.

But if you look at what the Xbox One has manage to do in the two biggest markets UK and NA. They achieve massive success of their own and if the trend continues they might even catch up to PS4 in these markets. 

 

There no surprise that PS4 is outselling Xbox one in Japan, Germany, and France..... But don't let the PS4 success in these market take away how well the Xbox one has manage to do in NA and UK. Sony was never the underdog; they were the sales leader and screw up majorly with the PS3 initial release. The PS4 had a flawless release and I am actually surprise how well Microsoft Xbox One has performed considering all the mistakes that they made. The future for Xbox one is very bright and they should probably avoid spending too much marketing money on the Market dominated by PS4. 

Yes, compared to MS's previous consoles the XB1 is their best console ever. But it doesn't exist in a vaccuum. And the NA and UK markets don't exist in vaccuums either. What matters is WW numbers.

But that's what's so interesting with this discussion! On the one hand, it's selling very well compared to almost everything except PS4/2 and Wii. That's fantastic! On the other hand, it's getting beaten by it's most direct competition; PS4 - and by quite a bit. I'd argue it's a success if MS is making money from it.



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Puppyroach said:
So far its a huge success for MS, but I maintain that this generation will drop off much faster than 7th Gen so total sales will be lower.


This is exactly what could make the One a failure, last gen the best years were 5-6 if this gen is to be much shorter then the best years need to come alot earlier, PS4 has managed this and may beat PS3 numbers, but if X1 doesnt manage it this year it cant possibly be a success compared to its last gen counterparts.



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Absolutely not



Failure?

Yes, the original plan for the Xbox One was a failure.

Now after several 180° from MS it's an "acceptable" console, BUT it will never be as successful as the X360 and the XBO is to weak compared to its rival PS4.



Looking at how they started out of the gate (May and June 2013 reveals), and all the negative publicity they have attracted, it is a miracle that the XBox is where it is at now.

Lots of credit needs to be given to MS and Xbox management for having the vision and courage to quickly do 180s on all unpopular policies, lots of credit has to go to Phil Spencer for having the guts to marginalize Kinect which ate a lot of investment but ended up being their albatross, lots of credit goes to their marketing department, and lots of credit has to go to the games division that is trying to produce quality games.

When they started last year, I was upset and disappointed, and I wished them to fail miserably. But now, after 15 months on a market, XOne is definitely not a failure.
Cannot really say it is a huge success either - it is just doing very good, and has become a marketable product able to compete with PS4 at a decent, dignified level.



No, not at all a failure, unless on a personal level you think that selling less units than the PS4 is a failure, but it the system end up selling 60m + units for the generation and gets out some great exclusives, then i personally would say they have done well.

Then if there is another generation of consoles, hopefully they have a much much better launch and have a console that is just as powerful if not more powerful then the competition.



I think in certain ways it has failed. For instance the kinect being removed is not something MS wanted. In fact I'm almost positive that they always had other intentions for it as far as selling things to advertisers. I also think they failed in the US market. They had an 18 million lead over the PS3 they've clearly lost a huge portion of that. It's never a good thing to lose users.