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uran10 on 19 January 2015
ExplodingBlock said:
uran10 said:

You clearly have no idea how 3rd party and nintendo work. Nintendo does not pay third party developers to make games for them or for extra features so their games skip nintendo consoles. This was started by microsoft and sony and has been screwing with the industry for a while. Why would they go to making games for nintendo when they can get cash to make it for the other which doesn't have the stigma of 3rd partys do not sell on nintendo. Traditonal console or more powerful hardware will not help nintendo in anyway. The only thing they need to work on is marketting.

That is why the Nintendo does not pay them, because they know that most of the install base is mostly loyal Nintendo fans, so most of the SW sold on the platform is Nintendo games and the third party games don't sell. Look how COD sold on Wii U compared to XB1(Similar install base), it didn't sell on Wii U because Nintendo's bad marketing, most Wii U owners are loyal Nintendo fans,  and most of the SW sold on Wii U is Nintendo, so they don't pay them any more to bring COD to Wii U

Do I need to point out that COD is exclusively advertized on Xbox and not on any other system? Its also not nintendo'sjob to advertise 3rd party games. They should push their game son the system but they don't push them and when they fail they blame nintendo. they also give nintendo broken versions or late versions and expect them to sell well. Nintendo fans are used to quality, very high quality and unless the third parties match that or give what they promise they will never sell well.



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ExplodingBlock on 19 January 2015
uran10 said:
ExplodingBlock said:

That is why the Nintendo does not pay them, because they know that most of the install base is mostly loyal Nintendo fans, so most of the SW sold on the platform is Nintendo games and the third party games don't sell. Look how COD sold on Wii U compared to XB1(Similar install base), it didn't sell on Wii U because Nintendo's bad marketing, most Wii U owners are loyal Nintendo fans,  and most of the SW sold on Wii U is Nintendo, so they don't pay them any more to bring COD to Wii U

Do I need to point out that COD is exclusively advertized on Xbox and not on any other system? Its also not nintendo'sjob to advertise 3rd party games. They should push their game son the system but they don't push them and when they fail they blame nintendo. they also give nintendo broken versions or late versions and expect them to sell well. Nintendo fans are used to quality, very high quality and unless the third parties match that or give what they promise they will never sell well.

Ok I will use another example

Look how FIFA 13 sold on Wii U compared to FIFA 14 on XB1

What about Assassins Creed IV?

When it all boils down to it, the majority of Wii U's install base are loyal Nintendo fans that have no interest in these third party games, only in Nintendo games



LipeJJ on 19 January 2015

I think they'll keep the 3D and drop the Gamepad.



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Soundwave on 19 January 2015
ExplodingBlock said:
uran10 said:
ExplodingBlock said:

That is why the Nintendo does not pay them, because they know that most of the install base is mostly loyal Nintendo fans, so most of the SW sold on the platform is Nintendo games and the third party games don't sell. Look how COD sold on Wii U compared to XB1(Similar install base), it didn't sell on Wii U because Nintendo's bad marketing, most Wii U owners are loyal Nintendo fans,  and most of the SW sold on Wii U is Nintendo, so they don't pay them any more to bring COD to Wii U

Do I need to point out that COD is exclusively advertized on Xbox and not on any other system? Its also not nintendo'sjob to advertise 3rd party games. They should push their game son the system but they don't push them and when they fail they blame nintendo. they also give nintendo broken versions or late versions and expect them to sell well. Nintendo fans are used to quality, very high quality and unless the third parties match that or give what they promise they will never sell well.

Ok I will use another example

Look how FIFA 13 sold on Wii U compared to FIFA 14 on XB1

What about Assassins Creed IV?

When it all boils down to it, the majority of Wii U's install base are loyal Nintendo fans that have no interest in these third party games, only in Nintendo games

I'd venture a guess that a lot of those "loyal" fans have a PS3/4 or 360/XB1 and buy their third party games there. 



Nuvendil on 19 January 2015

I think it's down to production costs. As such, I think the face tracking 3D will stay and will look great on an HD handheld. The gamepad though...not so sure. It has to be paired up with a more expensive console unit. I think the gamepad concept has a lot of potential with a redesign, but I think that it will just be too impractical to keep.



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oniyide on 19 January 2015
ExplodingBlock said:
uran10 said:

You clearly have no idea how 3rd party and nintendo work. Nintendo does not pay third party developers to make games for them or for extra features so their games skip nintendo consoles. This was started by microsoft and sony and has been screwing with the industry for a while. Why would they go to making games for nintendo when they can get cash to make it for the other which doesn't have the stigma of 3rd partys do not sell on nintendo. Traditonal console or more powerful hardware will not help nintendo in anyway. The only thing they need to work on is marketting.

That is why the Nintendo does not pay them, because they know that most of the install base is mostly loyal Nintendo fans, so most of the SW sold on the platform is Nintendo games and the third party games don't sell. Look how COD sold on Wii U compared to XB1(Similar install base), it didn't sell on Wii U because Nintendo's bad marketing, most Wii U owners are loyal Nintendo fans,  and most of the SW sold on Wii U is Nintendo, so they don't pay them any more to bring COD to Wii U


pretty sure they never paid them in the first place



Frogger on 19 January 2015

Anyone hoping that the next console and handheld will be single screen hardware with "no gimmicks" will be disappointed.

3D is staying. Dual screens, on both handheld AND consoles, are staying. The gamepad is staying.

Nintendo is forcing the Gamepad on Splatoon, Zelda U, Mario Party 10, and especially Star Fox, when they absolutely do not have to. It's not going anywhere. Nintendo just announced the New 3DS where they spent R&D money improving the 3D screen. It's not going anywhere.

Nintendo is clearly still investing in both. We'll see the same type of revision to the gamepad that the N3DS got to the 3D screen. They aren't abandoning anything.



oniyide on 19 January 2015
Wyrdness said:
oniyide said:
Wyrdness said:

I think the Gamepad will become a staple in their platforms as it's a normal controller that has a touch screen, you can play any traditional game on it with out any issue I can see it being standard on their home platforms plus it's a nice feature to have and adds some nice touches, 3d depends on the costs in future tbh.


how can it be a staple when they cant even get more than one to work with the system at a time?


Simple, better hardware will be used in future much like how early consoles only had two controller ports then hardware progressed.


so next gen will have two whopping gamepads to use instead of just one? Doesnt seem worth it IMHO



the_dengle on 19 January 2015

I think the New 3DS is a pretty solid indication that stereoscopic 3D is here to stay.



tak13 on 19 January 2015

New 3ds/xl proves that 3D is here to stay!I have imported NEW 3DS XL and I can say that I will never disable or lower the 3D effect as I was doing with my old 3DS xl!3D on New3ds/xl is prefectized!
As for the gamepad?
It will definetely drop it,it's great especially because of the off-tv play and this feature(or generally all feautes of gamepad)can be substituted by the next handheld!
So -80$ from gamepad phase out means a cheaper wii u successor and handheld controller option means that you don't deprive these feautures from those who enjoyed them on wii u(Like me!I avidly want the next handheld to be an optional controller of the wii u successor) but you don't also obligate someone to have or pay for something that he doesn't want!
Otherwise,these money can be disposed to another parts of the successor that may need to be hugely upgraded compared to the predecessor!