Haha, I was in much the same boat except that I could only talk my parents into renting me a game maybe once a month. But my grandmother was a soft touch, so I did most of my renting when I stayed at her house. She lived in a podunk little ass town where the Take Two Video smelled exactly like a barn. Fortunately, the people who ran it either knew what was what or (as I kind of suspect was the case) were so clueless that they accidentally stocked a lot of good games along with the usual movie tie-in shit. In any event, they had a Samurai Shodown machine!

who agrees if this game sold 500K units in US this thread would only be up to 20 posts?

what happened to all those people who don't own a Wii U wanting the game? Guess they didn't want it bad enough to play it.

Having her in Smash would have helped.

Because that would basically be free advertisement. And NO that would not turn smash into an 18+/21+/rated R title. I mean is PSASBR a title that is for adults only? Nope. And Bayo 2 is 16+/rated T anyways.

That 135k includes digital, no? And we have it at 305k or so in the US with physical copies alone, this could be up to 200k overtracked in the US, that's about 1/3 of the global ltd numbers we have showing for physical sales.

It's retail only but it is sub 135k

As far as I could tell those people were mad because they didn't want to buy a Wii U for Bayonetta 2, so I guess what happened is they didn't buy a Wii U or Bayonetta 2.

Guys it's time to accept it... Bayonetta 2 sold under 135K LTD in the US, overtracked by 180K by VGChartz.

Well, the NPD numbers are far better than VGC's. The sad thing is  that the data is private since 2011, so we actually get all the numbers from leakers from then... Ah and also, NPD tracks dozen of thousands retails shops, that accounts for 95%+ nowadays, from a sample that big, it's very accurate to have the real 100% data. And I doubt VGC gets even tracks more than 1%... Hence VGChartz always update to NPD numbers when they are too much off from the real numbers. It doesn't mean that VGC's data is bad, it's just less accurate, but we get it on the weekly basis which is better.

creamsugar is the main leaker on GAF since years, it's not a guess, it's real.

Yes it is overtracked... it is a proof.

If you consider THIS a rumor, then consider all the USA sales data informations we got since 2011 a rumor... which is non sense. It's real, accept it.

1. You will never get Nintendo's numbers for most of these games because they don't sell well.

2. that data is still Official, it is just private and get leaked... it's really expensive and therefore dangerous to leak, so creamsugar as other leakers hide himself with cryptic messages, nothing 'random here'.

They get sales data from retailers that in total have 90% marketshare in the US, and use math to extrapolate the last 10. Arguing agaisnt NPD is just silly.

"What's with all you people not buying a system to play one game?" Hope you realize how silly that sounds.

Why should I believe some neoF@G, help me out here

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