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Burek said:
Is it even legal to include a device without a charger? Aren't there any consumer protection laws in the US? They sell you a device that you will be unable to use unless you buy extra equipment.

I've never heard of a smartphone maker saying "We don't include a charger, people already have some USB cables lying around their house." This is the most consumer-unfriendly move, and it is beyond my comprehension that someone can even attempt to defend Nintendo.


I think it does happen, actually. Also, haven't you ever heard of "batteries not included" on products that require batteries?



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MDMAlliance said:
Burek said:
Is it even legal to include a device without a charger? Aren't there any consumer protection laws in the US? They sell you a device that you will be unable to use unless you buy extra equipment.

I've never heard of a smartphone maker saying "We don't include a charger, people already have some USB cables lying around their house." This is the most consumer-unfriendly move, and it is beyond my comprehension that someone can even attempt to defend Nintendo.


I think it does happen, actually. Also, haven't you ever heard of "batteries not included" on products that require batteries?

I guess it's an American thing then. I never bought a product that requires batteries without batteries included. Sure, they are some cheap Chinese brand, but still...



MDMAlliance said:
Burek said:
Is it even legal to include a device without a charger? Aren't there any consumer protection laws in the US? They sell you a device that you will be unable to use unless you buy extra equipment.

I've never heard of a smartphone maker saying "We don't include a charger, people already have some USB cables lying around their house." This is the most consumer-unfriendly move, and it is beyond my comprehension that someone can even attempt to defend Nintendo.


I think it does happen, actually. Also, haven't you ever heard of "batteries not included" on products that require batteries?


Yeah, but this is more of a "the port you actually put the batteries in sold separately" sort of deal.



Nintendo really done f**ked up here. They'll need to tell retailers to have their employees notify buyers. Every shop selling these SKUs should be strictly required to carry the chargers now.

This is really a "domino effect" scenario.



That was a really crappy argument I must say. So a charger, which would cost them something like 2$ to include, it excluded out of the care for 3DS owners?



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MDMAlliance said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Disgusting move by Nintendo. Forcing people to buy entire 3DS/DSi systems along with the new XL model just to get a charger can be seen as nothing more than an attempt to make us double dip their hardware.


No doubt this is in the same vein as their decision to not design memorable spine art for their video game boxes. Needless to say, their once renowned Nintendo magic is clearly starting to run out.

Are you implying that Nintendo does not sell their chargers stand-alone?  Because they do, and if you look it up online, they are not any more than $10.  You can find a 3rd party charger for $5, and a second-hand charger for around $2 on ebay (free shipping).


Clearly a joke. LOL. Seemed pretty obvious to me.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

cheshirescat said:
MDMAlliance said:
Burek said:
Is it even legal to include a device without a charger? Aren't there any consumer protection laws in the US? They sell you a device that you will be unable to use unless you buy extra equipment.

I've never heard of a smartphone maker saying "We don't include a charger, people already have some USB cables lying around their house." This is the most consumer-unfriendly move, and it is beyond my comprehension that someone can even attempt to defend Nintendo.


I think it does happen, actually. Also, haven't you ever heard of "batteries not included" on products that require batteries?


Yeah, but this is more of a "the port you actually put the batteries in sold separately" sort of deal.

That's not at all the same thing. The comparison I made is closest, since it's roughly the same thing. In fact, "batteries not included" is worse simply for the fact that cheap ones are not rechargeable.  You can use the 3DS without the charger since the battery is actually charged a little in the box.  You will just need to buy the charger to use it after its initial charge dies.  

Anyway, think about the process for each.  Let's say you buy an RC toy.  It requires batteries, but the box says the batteries are not included.  That means that you cannot use the device unless you buy batteries separately.  

Now go with the New 3DS XL. The box will, no doubt, have on the box somewhere "AC adapter not included." That means that you cannot go past the initial charge without buying the charger separately. 

Price of a pack of batteries: Varies, but tends to be $4+

Price of an AC adapter that works on the 3DS: $10 new on Nintendo's store page, $5 refirbished, $5 3rd party, $2 ebay

Very similar processes.  If you imply that the "port" is sold separately, the equivalent for the 3DS would more likely be "buttons sold separately - self install."  



ohmylanta1003 said:
MDMAlliance said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Disgusting move by Nintendo. Forcing people to buy entire 3DS/DSi systems along with the new XL model just to get a charger can be seen as nothing more than an attempt to make us double dip their hardware.


No doubt this is in the same vein as their decision to not design memorable spine art for their video game boxes. Needless to say, their once renowned Nintendo magic is clearly starting to run out.

Are you implying that Nintendo does not sell their chargers stand-alone?  Because they do, and if you look it up online, they are not any more than $10.  You can find a 3rd party charger for $5, and a second-hand charger for around $2 on ebay (free shipping).


Clearly a joke. LOL. Seemed pretty obvious to me.


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terrible excuse



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While I wouldnt mind if it was me (wont being buying a New 3DS unless we standard version in NA), I'm not sure it'll fly with a lot of people. They may be forced to change this.