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fireburn95 said:


With no disrespect to those three, I don't think people tune into IGN for Jose or Peer. Maybe Brian and Naomi Kyle.

But Greg and Colin alone brought high retention amongst PS fans. Without them, beyond podcast is dead, and many of those PS fans are gonna now move to the 'alternative' beyond hosted by the same people.

IGN aint dead but this is definitely bad news.


I sure go for them, myself.



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ktay95 said:
Lol, first IGN's Nintendo team died (Jose has done a terrible job with it so far) and now IGN PS is dead... guess its time I leave IGN.


I think Jose is pretty good. Why is he doing a bad job?



Smear-Gel said:
ktay95 said:
Lol, first IGN's Nintendo team died (Jose has done a terrible job with it so far) and now IGN PS is dead... guess its time I leave IGN.


I think Jose is pretty good. Why is he doing a bad job?

Because NVC is just as inconsistent as ever along with any other NIntendo features.



ktay95 said:
Smear-Gel said:
ktay95 said:
Lol, first IGN's Nintendo team died (Jose has done a terrible job with it so far) and now IGN PS is dead... guess its time I leave IGN.


I think Jose is pretty good. Why is he doing a bad job?

Because NVC is just as inconsistent as ever along with any other NIntendo features.


As in inconsistent quality or upload speed?



Smear-Gel said:


As in inconsistent quality or upload speed?

Quality is fine (although I hate that Jose cant stand going off topic for more than a minute) its just that there is times where we dont see one for like 2-3 weeks



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ktay95 said:
Smear-Gel said:
 


As in inconsistent quality or upload speed?

Quality is fine (although I hate that Jose cant stand going off topic for more than a minute) its just that there is times where we dont see one for like 2-3 weeks

Oh, then yeah, I agree.



darkknightkryta said:
adriane23 said:
XanderXT said:
adriane23 said:
Guitarguy said:
Greg Miller wasn't a serious gaming reporter in my opinion. Half of the podcasts were him just making bad jokes or messing around with the other dudes. Still a big blow to IGN but I doubt the general public will notice/care.

I think that's what you would call an oxymoron. Greg Miller was one of the few editors at IGN with an actual journalism degree, and a professional journalism background. He said a few times that gaming journalism/reporting wasn't real journalism/reporting. Gaming reporting is critical blogging on its best day.

Huh.... Perhaps I should read more about him. Where can I get this info?

Past Podcast Beyond episodes, and several interviews he's done (See Aisha Tyler's podcast). He got his degree in journalism at the University of Missouri and then got hired as a journalist for a Missouri newspaper before working at IGN. He's said several times that gaming journalism isn't close to what real journalists do on Podcast Beyond.

EDIT: Oh it also looks like he has a Wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Miller_%28Internet_celebrity%29

Is it sad to say that his reviews are some of the most unprofessional reviews I've read?  Like, I'm not saying they're terrible, poorly written or anything like that.  But they honestly seem like they're written for blogs.  Whether that's IGN's doing or not, I'm not sure.  

He explained on one of the podcast episodes that he wrote his reviews like he was just having a conversation with someone, to make them feel more natural. He also said he hated writing reviews for games, which is why he stopped doing them years ago. A lot of the editors (like Marty Sliva) have also said that the worst part of writing the reviews was giving a score for them. Marty even said flat out that review scores are completely pointless.



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adriane23 said:
darkknightkryta said:

Is it sad to say that his reviews are some of the most unprofessional reviews I've read?  Like, I'm not saying they're terrible, poorly written or anything like that.  But they honestly seem like they're written for blogs.  Whether that's IGN's doing or not, I'm not sure.  

He explained on one of the podcast episodes that he wrote his reviews like he was just having a conversation with someone, to make them feel more natural. He also said he hated writing reviews for games, which is why he stopped doing them years ago. A lot of the editors (like Marty Sliva) have also said that the worst part of writing the reviews was giving a score for them. Marty even said flat out that review scores are completely pointless.

But that's what I'm saying, he shouldn't have done that.  As far as the score system goes; it became pointless.   Reviews used to be so detailed, they'd go through every little detail.  From the menus , to the gameplay, to the texture work, to the sound effects.  When they used to go into that detail, you could justify the score they used to give.  Then the final score was averaged.  Now they'll give score based on vague comments, and then pull a final score out of their assess.  Miller was one of the later.



darkknightkryta said:
adriane23 said:
darkknightkryta said:

Is it sad to say that his reviews are some of the most unprofessional reviews I've read?  Like, I'm not saying they're terrible, poorly written or anything like that.  But they honestly seem like they're written for blogs.  Whether that's IGN's doing or not, I'm not sure.  

He explained on one of the podcast episodes that he wrote his reviews like he was just having a conversation with someone, to make them feel more natural. He also said he hated writing reviews for games, which is why he stopped doing them years ago. A lot of the editors (like Marty Sliva) have also said that the worst part of writing the reviews was giving a score for them. Marty even said flat out that review scores are completely pointless.

But that's what I'm saying, he shouldn't have done that.  As far as the score system goes; it became pointless.   Reviews used to be so detailed, they'd go through every little detail.  From the menus , to the gameplay, to the texture work, to the sound effects.  When they used to go into that detail, you could justify the score they used to give.  Then the final score was averaged.  Now they'll give score based on vague comments, and then pull a final score out of their assess.  Miller was one of the later.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm defending or in support of his review style. I couldn't care less about reviews, I'm just giving you information.



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Max Schoeville is replacing him. No harm, no foul. I've missed his shows since he left Rev 3. He needs the job and Greg Miller is beyond IGN now. Max could use the platform.