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Forums - Sales - Global Hardware Up 13 December 2014

Teeqoz on 28 December 2014
kowenicki said:
Teeqoz said:

It was bound to happen. The 7th gen was something that would never be repeated, where all three consoles sold great. The Wii captured an entirely new market (and one which probably won't ever be captured again) and then that market left. This gen, sales will be back to 6th gen levels.

 

Also, I think your XBO estimate is too low. That would imply a 57% marketshare for the PS4. I think it'll be more like 120 PS4, 75 XBO, 25 Wii U.

Those arent my predictions.  I was saying what fusion would guess as maximums.  He didnt correct me so I assume it is in the ball park for him.

PS4 isnt going to sell 120m imo.


Ah, okay.

 

All those numbers were the max I think those consoles could do. The Wii U for example, will probably do even less than 25 m.



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DanRybacki on 28 December 2014
iTechHeads said:
Nice to see PS4 going up and XB1 going down. 

Why?



Ryng on 28 December 2014

180M max for PS4
50M max for XO
30M max for Wii U



Ninsect on 28 December 2014

WiiU isn't going to sell 20m, let alone 25m lulz. Slightly above 15m would be my guess now, but WiiU never really fails to underperform so you never know.



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Barkley on 28 December 2014
kowenicki said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
180M max for PS4
50M max for XO
30M max for Wii U


what the....? o.O


I'm pretty sure he's said 200 million before.



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Ryng on 28 December 2014
kowenicki said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
180M max for PS4
50M max for XO
30M max for Wii U


what the....? o.O

PS4 is still above PS2 sales, so, the MAX for PS4 is above PS2 sales lifetime!

PS4 sales are undertracked, it will probabily sell 16.5M-17M in 2014 (PS2 sold "only" 16M first year, and the Wii 16.5M).

BEST SCENARIO (not my prediction):

2013: 4.5M

2014: 17.5M

2015: 24M

2016: 23M

2017: 21M

2018: 19M

2019: 17M

2020: 10M (PS5 release)

2021-2025: other 40-50M

 

That IS NOT my prediction, but is the best case scenario.



Ryng on 28 December 2014
Barkley said:
kowenicki said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
180M max for PS4
50M max for XO
30M max for Wii U


what the....? o.O


I'm pretty sure he's said 200 million before.

Why you said bullshit?

When i have predict 200,000,000 PS4???

I have predict MAXIMUM 180,000,000, not more.

My "hope prediction" is 170M, and i have said that is a hope more than a prediction, and is more realistic 140,000,000-160,000,000.

But no, PS4 don't will sell 100,000,000.

TOO LOW. Worst scenario is 120,000,000



Ninsect on 28 December 2014
kowenicki said:

No idea, but you seem confident... so why dont you break it down per region for me. should be interesting.  If 120m is easy then presumably you think 130m plus. break it down, I'm genuinely interested and prepared to be educated/corrected.

On your previous post. Yes, the xbox one was overtracked in November in the US but not by nearly as much as the PS4, but you don't correct anyone saying undertracked for that do you.  (ONE was 16% or 199k, PS4 was 26% or 216k).  PS4 was hugely overtracked.

Eh, breaking it down per region requires a lot more than predicting lifetime sales but just for some rough numbers:

NA - 40m
Europe - 45-50m
Japan - barely 10m
ROW - 20-25m+

As for the second part of your post: I didn't read any posts saying PS4 was being undertracked in the US. Did you?

 

Edit: "But seeing as you are in a mood to provide numbers can you break down the lifetime totals per region (pezus doesnt want to)"

Wow, do you think I'm monitoring this thread constantly? Give me a few minutes will ya.



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Ryng on 28 December 2014
kowenicki said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
kowenicki said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
180M max for PS4
50M max for XO
30M max for Wii U


what the....? o.O

PS4 is still above PS2 sales, so, the MAX for PS4 is above PS2 sales lifetime!

PS4 sales are undertracked, it will probabily sell 16.5M-17M in 2014 (PS2 sold "only" 16M first year, and the Wii 16.5M).

BEST SCENARIO (not my prediction):

2013: 4.5M

2014: 17.5M

2015: 24M

2016: 23M

2017: 21M

2018: 19M

2019: 17M

2020: 10M (PS5 release)

2021-2025: other 40-50M

 

That IS NOT my prediction, but is the best case scenario.

Another 40m to 50m from 2021 to 2025.  It is your best case scenario, so it is your best case scenario prediction.  Its actually impossible imo.

 

But seeing as you are in a mood to provide numbers can you break down the lifetime totals per region (pezus doesnt want to)

Japan: Xm

NA: Xm

Europe: Xm

Others: Xm

And why not?

PS2 how much have sold after PS3 released?

42M... so, best scenario for PS4 is +42M after PS5 released.

 

Sales MAX for region:

NA: 65M (53M PS2)

EU: 75M (55M PS2)

Jap: 7M (23M PS2)

Other: 30M (25M PS2)



CosmicSex on 28 December 2014
kowenicki said:

hilarious.... but alas untrue.

but yes the second part of your post proves my point, its easier to gte 50% this gen and wont mean as many sales... nowhere near.

to illustrate... 50% last gen you would need to have sold 140m plus by now.  What do you think the PS4 will end at?

5.65 million PS3's were sold from launch till the end of the first September.

11.7  million PS4's were sold from lauch till the end of the first Septermber.

This seems to indicate that the PS4 is sellign at roughly 2x the PS3

Regardless of the what the other consoles are doing, PS4 will acheive >50% marketshare and sales  that exceed the Wii from last generation.    Because the combined sales of the Xbox One and Wii U will probably not exceed 100 million, and because the PS4 will, I think its really impressive regardless of how much people will be requred to downplay it.