There is more Anti Microsoft in Europe here than in USA and Microsoft DRM policy made it worse. Remember that you even need our permission to save cookie on our computers.
We're not dumb.
Yeah no Europe is pretty much sonys land
Augen said:
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Yeah sure..why?
My prediction threads:
Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)
PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)
Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right
| Kyuu said: I liked your original avatar better:
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What's that? :S
My prediction threads:
Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)
PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)
Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right
man-bear-pig said:
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Easy metric to track next year. Each week we see if Microsoft managed to win a week and at the end see what it adds up to.
For example: I counter and will predict the X1 will outsell the PS4 less than 5 weeks in Europe in 2015. You predict it will outsell the PS4 in more than 26 weeks. Neither of us win if the X1 outsells it 5 to 26 weeks in Europe in 2015.
Maybe a fun harmless wager to be awarded at years end? Signature control for a month?
| man-bear-pig said: Next year the Xbox One will outsell the PS4 in Europe, and here's why: 1.) In January Microsoft are releasing details about Windows 10 and it's compatibility with Xbox and if early reviews are anything to go by then Windows 10 will be up there with Windows 7 in terms of popularity. These new Windows 10 users are going to want to get a console which runs Windows 10 in order to be familiar with one unified user interface and the associated benefits. This will also be greatly beneficial to Windows Phone but that's for another prediction thread entirely... 2.) Halo 5. The past 2 mainline Halos have both sold well over 2m copies in Europe and I see no reason why Halo 5 can't do the same and even exceed these given how positive the early multiplayer reviews are. With the decline of Call of Duty there is room for a Halo resurgence and I believe Halo 5 is the game to do it. 3.) I believe that after seeing how positive the reaction in the USA has been to their price cut, they'll try to lower their prices in Europe to be more competitive with the PS4 as it's currently significantly cheaper in most places. This will boost sales significantly. 4.) Forza. If reviews are anything to go by (which they are) then Forza is the best racing game hands down. As we all know Europe has a strong affinity for racing games and Xbox One is the place to be for these racing fans imo. Xbox One owners will get a pretty much guaranteed annual Forza game whereas PS4 owners will have to wait 5 or so years between Gran Turismo releases and that's too long for a lot of people. I can see a lot of the European PS4 early adopters jumping ship to Xbox One for this very reason. 5.) The decline of Nintendo. The Wii captured the casual gamer market in a big way last gen, and evidently these Wii owners arent transitioning to the Wii U this gen. This leaves the Xbox One as the go-to console for casual gamers this gen imo, as well as all the other gamers it captured last gen. 6.) Money. Nadella (new M$ CEO) has shown how much he values Xbox as an essential part of Microsoft by the money he's been spending recently to put Xbox back on track. Microsoft have ~$80bn in cash and they don't like being second in anything they do...go hard or go home. And they're going hard. Expect some huge money-hatted exclusives at E3 2015 and subsequent PS4 buyers remorse. The main advantage the PS4 has in Europe in 2015 is the current userbase. As of the W.E. 6th December the PS4 currently sits at 6,809,438 units and the Xbox One is at 2,571,751 units, meaning the gap is 4,237,687. This gap will probably be around 5m by years end due to Sony's lower pricing in Europe. This 5m advantage will mean that the friends of PS4 owners may be swaying towards the PS4 instead of the Xbox One in order to play with their friends but I don't believe this will be enough to counter-act the points I've listed in favour of the Xbox One. Thoughts? I'll bump this thread when I'm right. In the meantime call me crazy etc. |
1) Gamers don't care about Windows 10, as they don't care about any OS. They do care about a brand of trust, games, competitive price, and Playstation already proved since PSX to be the most wanted Console in Europe. 2014 was a bloodbath for X1, 2015 will be even worst.
2) Halo 5 will be most probably released in Nov 2015, and can't help VS the the entire PS4 line up all along the whole 2015. Also see point 1)
3) In Germany there are already fantastic deals for X1, but PS4 continues to crush it every week since launch. This happens in all Europe apart from UK, where there's a good competition. And MS themselves do not care that much about Europe(apart from UK).
4) Forza is not so popular in Europe, and won't move much units. There are games like Fifa which will move so much more consoles on PS4 than Forza and Fifa combined for X1. mark my words.
5) Many more gamers already went and are going to PS4(360 and Wii gamers), compared to the ones who went and are going to XOne. Check the selling numbers in Europe for both PS4 and X1.
6) This is why MS get crushed in Europe every time by the PS2, PS3(even if it was released 16 months after 360 at a very expensive price), and by PS4 now. Because MS don't like being second in anything they do...
What I think ? You said all by yourself at the end of your post. Thanks for the laugh.
| narre said: There is more Anti Microsoft in Europe here than in USA and Microsoft DRM policy made it worse. Remember that you even need our permission to save cookie on our computers. We're not dumb. |
Why would i stay angry when they remove DRM policy
PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m
Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m
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