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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Samus Aran said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Samus Aran said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Its not a win-win sitution... If say Nintendo goes like the way that ps+/gold goes... That means that everyone has to pay this Yearly fee for it and those that don't will get heavly punished for it... Imagine spending $60 and buying MK8 only to have the online portion locked behind a paywall... That is terrible! And everyone knows that the single player cannot hold on its own

I never said Nintendo should make online play subscription based. I said they should reward loyal customers more often. I gave PS Plus as an example because it provides plenty of content to make it worth the price. The fact that you need it to also play online games is silly yes. But not a dealbreaker.

How does Nintendo not provide enough content for something thats free? That on itself is legit entitled... The reason that people get stuff for ps+/gold is cause they pay money for it and Nintendo gives stuff for free...

Sony gave out €1000 worth of "free" games this year. Club Nintendo gives away Mario pencils after you bought €1000 worth of Nintendo products (hyperbole). 

Thats cause people paid a yearly fee for it... Its not free if you don't pay for it

Hence why Nintendo should reward loyal customers more often... Other companies do it all the time. 

I don't think anyone cares for an annual fee if the content is worth it. Look at how popular Loot Crates are... 



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Samus Aran said:
Chazore said:
Oh lawdy, this was a good read for a while but it stopped getting interesting once a disgusting anti consumer tactic was mentioned and lawded as being better than a free service.

Seriously marketing can brainwash people real bad that they don't realise it's had an adverse effect on them.

I buy Nintendo games and I'll be blunt, I don't give a care about what they give out for free because it's not something I need desperately in my life, I just buy and play the games I want and that's it, the last thing I want is another company's anti consumer service to replace a free service and lock certain games behind a pyawall, seriously that can fuck right off.

Funny thing was I bought Link between worlds this summer and the game released last Nov, I managed to buy it for half the price brand new and to boot I used research on where I was going to buy a copy meaning I knew exactly where to buy it cheaper than my regular GAME store.

While Nintendo's general pricing method is getting a bit old it certainly doesn't stop me from biding my time with playing other games and finding other areas around Europe to find what I want cheaply, I do the same for almost anything I want and can afford, why buy my Revoltech Evangelion figures from Amazon where they are more expensive (and mostly bootlegged at that) when I could use a Japanese provider who not only delivers to my area but also makes it cheaper to buy, why is common research such an unheard of concept to people that complain?, yes it would be nice if Nintendo lwoered some of their prices but their games are still in demand for some and even then you can find them cheaper in other areas of the world if you took some time out of your life to look.

Yes, Sony is so anti-consumerist, that's why it outsells Nintendo ten to one. You can do all the research you want, you won't find cheap Nintendo games where I live. 

I have never watched a Sony advertisement in my life. I did my research on PS Plus and saw that it provided more content than it costs. Such brainwashing! 

At least you can read between the lines without the ened for the winky face, I'll give you that.

 

Pray tell, where do you live?, I already know the answer I'm going to give you based on present economics data but the question is are you willing to accept reason?.

See I live on a small island, The Isle of Man (contary to popular belief that Americans in general don't know we exist and have one of the oldest parliments in the world next to Iceland) and we only have one HMV store, One Tescos, one PC world and one GAME store, the former not really selling many in the games dept but still being almost the same price as GAME sells for, now GAME in general award you points for buying games/hardware in general, being awarded points in which you can save up and eventually slash some pricing for products you wish to buy from them and all for just buying what you were going to buy in general, no added fee or price, that is a basic free deal because:

 

1)I'm buying the game I was going to buy anyway otherwise I've no reason to even enter the store in the first place (shocking I know)

2)There is no other requirement needed to obtain those points, nothing in the store gates you off but your currency in your bank/pocket (general resources all humans use in everyday life, another shocking concept based in reality).

Now apart from that one example, I can browse multiple stores in the EU that can deliver to my island, if all prices are the same I simply bide that thing humans call time and visit again (like how we wait for that brack friday deal/cyber Monday/January sales/easter sales/summer/autum/Xmas sales etc), there's also me going on vacation or visiting other european areas and as always when I do I'll always visit the game stores other EU countries have and browse.

The third and final advantage I have up my own sleeve is my currency having more value, meaning I can effectively buy my other games cheaply around the EU, you say you cannot find them cheaply around your area which tells me the place you came from is not doing so well economically, to which I'll ask; why are you even living in such a poor area?.

I can use the internet, venture around the world and take advantage of other market prices and their economy in general, why can't you simply do same?, it;s not rocket science and it;s certainly not hard, especially if you're claiming being more than happy to spend 1000 in your currency, money sounds like a complete non issue to you so why don't you take proper advantage of other world markets and their economies?.



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alternine said:

Ummmm. Ive been hearing a lot from angry and disgruntled Nintendo fans that the Club Nintendo subscription is weak.

At least compared to the competition. I'm gonna take a quote from a game near and dear to my heart on this situation.

"Say what you want about Americans but we understand Capitalism. You buy yourself a product and you get what you pay for".

What can Nintendo do to improve the service

Ummm, it's not a subscription service, it is free. You just register and review your games and then can potentially get rewarded for doing so. 





Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

Chazore said:

At least you can read between the lines without the ened for the winky face, I'll give you that.

 

Pray tell, where do you live?, I already know the answer I'm going to give you based on present economics data but the question is are you willing to accept reason?.

See I live on a small island, The Isle of Man (contary to popular belief that Americans in general don't know we exist and have one of the oldest parliments in the world next to Iceland) and we only have one HMV store, One Tescos, one PC world and one GAME store, the former not really selling many in the games dept but still being almost the same price as GAME sells for, now GAME in general award you points for buying games/hardware in general, being awarded points in which you can save up and eventually slash some pricing for products you wish to buy from them and all for just buying what you were going to buy in general, no added fee or price, that is a basic free deal because:

 

1)I'm buying the game I was going to buy anyway otherwise I've no reason to even enter the store in the first place (shocking I know)

2)There is no other requirement needed to obtain those points, nothing in the store gates you off but your currency in your bank/pocket (general resources all humans use in everyday life, another shocking concept based in reality).

Now apart from that one example, I can browse multiple stores in the EU that can deliver to my island, if all prices are the same I simply bide that thing humans call time and visit again (like how we wait for that brack friday deal/cyber Monday/January sales/easter sales/summer/autum/Xmas sales etc), there's also me going on vacation or visiting other european areas and as always when I do I'll always visit the game stores other EU countries have and browse.

The third and final advantage I have up my own sleeve is my currency having more value, meaning I can effectively buy my other games cheaply around the EU, you say you cannot find them cheaply around your area which tells me the place you came from is not doing so well economically, to which I'll ask; why are you even living in such a poor area?.

I can use the internet, venture around the world and take advantage of other market prices and their economy in general, why can't you simply do same?, it;s not rocket science and it;s certainly not hard, especially if you're claiming being more than happy to spend 1000 in your currency, money sounds like a complete non issue to you so why don't you take proper advantage of other world markets and their economies?.

Because the Wii U is region locked. ;)

I'm not spending hours of research on where I can buy the cheapest thing. I'd earn more if I actually worked for an hour. ;) 

And no, I'm not from a poor area, and I'm well aware of the Isle of Men, being a cycling fan and all...



Samus Aran said:

Because the Wii U is region locked. ;)

I'm not spending hours of research on where I can buy the cheapest thing. I'd earn more if I actually worked for an hour. ;) 

And no, I'm not from a poor area, and I'm well aware of the Isle of Men, being a cycling fan and all...

I know it;s regeon locked but that didn't stop me from browsing a shop in the Netherlands and buying LBW for half the price brand new ;).

I don't tend to spend "hours" of resaearch, I would normally have said that about 5-7 years ago when I had no clue how to search for almost anything but now I'm more adapt to finding what I want when I want with that thing we call learning.

It sounds like if you worked more you wouldn't have an issue with the pricing methods then =P.

From your general complaints I would cite that you must be from a poor area, why else would you only cite one sample of marketing from only one company, I mentioned my game store, I mentioned the Netherlands, mentioned GAME points,mentioned my use of different currencies.

Yet all you mentioned was a Sony service you have to pay for in order to get "free things".

Also your replies are short and don't really address what was said, as in not being taken on board or sinking into the mind, I can see why a user a few posts above decided to give up, not like I'm going to though, I've presented information and technically offered you advice so it;s up to you to take that on board.

 



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Samus Aran said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Samus Aran said:

Sony gave out €1000 worth of "free" games this year. Club Nintendo gives away Mario pencils after you bought €1000 worth of Nintendo products (hyperbole). 

Thats cause people paid a yearly fee for it... Its not free if you don't pay for it

Hence why Nintendo should reward loyal customers more often... Other companies do it all the time. 

I don't think anyone cares for an annual fee if the content is worth it. Look at how popular Loot Crates are... 

The content's worth is subjective and considering how much whining there are across the internet about how people want "better" games for it, I m sure there are many people that dont think its worth it cause a # of the games they give aren't all that interesting in the eyes of many people.

And they dont really reward people for being loyal... Its part of the deal that people get for paying yearly for it.

And Nintendo does reward people for buying their games but others just give you games after u pay yearly for it instead of just buying games and again those that dont want to pay yearly will get heavly punished so no, not a win-win



                  

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Chazore said:
Samus Aran said:
 

Because the Wii U is region locked. ;)

I'm not spending hours of research on where I can buy the cheapest thing. I'd earn more if I actually worked for an hour. ;) 

And no, I'm not from a poor area, and I'm well aware of the Isle of Men, being a cycling fan and all...

I know it;s regeon locked but that didn't stop me from browsing a shop in the Netherlands and buying LBW for half the price brand new ;).

I don't tend to spend "hours" of resaearch, I would normally have said that about 5-7 years ago when I had no clue how to search for almost anything but now I'm more adapt to finding what I want when I want with that thing we call learning.

It sounds like if you worked more you wouldn't have an issue with the pricing methods then =P.

From your general complaints I would cite that you must be from a poor area, why else would you only cite one sample of marketing from only one company, I mentioned my game store, I mentioned the Netherlands, mentioned GAME points,mentioned my use of different currencies.

Yet all you mentioned was a Sony service you have to pay for in order to get "free things".

Also your replies are short and don't really address what was said, as in not being taken on board or sinking into the mind, I can see why a user a few posts above decided to give up, not like I'm going to though, I've presented information and technically offered you advice so it;s up to you to take that on board.

 

I live right next to the Netherlands. ;) 

I can only buy European games. Most European countries use the same curreny, so that argument doesn't hold up for me. 

I don't want to order a game online and wait for it to come to me. If I'm excited for a game I want to play it right away! Nor do I have any problem affording said games, but why pay more when I could pay less? 



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

The content's worth is subjective and considering how much whining there are across the internet about how people want "better" games for it, I m sure there are many people that dont think its worth it cause a # of the games they give aren't all that interesting in the eyes of many people.

And they dont really reward people for being loyal... Its part of the deal that people get for paying yearly for it.

And Nintendo does reward people for buying their games but others just give you games after u pay yearly for it instead of just buying games and again those that dont want to pay yearly will get heavly punished so no, not a win-win

Where did I say Nintendo has to carbon copy other companies? They should be inspired by other companies and then take an old idea and improve upon it with the magic of Nintendo! 

And people whine about everything, even free stuff. I'm the proof of that! ;) (Yes, I'm capable of laughing with myself)

If I'm self entitled for wanting a free game every 5 games or so I buy then so be it. I'm already an arrogant asshole, might as well add self entitled to that lol. 



Samus Aran said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Samus Aran said:

Hence why Nintendo should reward loyal customers more often... Other companies do it all the time. 

I don't think anyone cares for an annual fee if the content is worth it. Look at how popular Loot Crates are... 

The content's worth is subjective and considering how much whining there are across the internet about how people want "better" games for it, I m sure there are many people that dont think its worth it cause a # of the games they give aren't all that interesting in the eyes of many people.

And they dont really reward people for being loyal... Its part of the deal that people get for paying yearly for it.

And Nintendo does reward people for buying their games but others just give you games after u pay yearly for it instead of just buying games and again those that dont want to pay yearly will get heavly punished so no, not a win-win

Where did I say Nintendo has to carbon copy other companies? They should be inspired by other companies and then take an old idea and improve upon it with the magic of Nintendo! 

And people whine about everything, even free stuff. I'm the proof of that! ;) 

Can you please cut down on the quote trees? I cant cause I m on mobile :/

Anyway, if u think they shouldn't do a subscription subscription service, then ur just being entitled again cause u want more free stuff on top of free stuff u already get in a free service. But okay, if Nintendo can do Nintendo magic and have a trillion dollars in the bank, sure why not



                  

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Samus Aran said:
mZuzek said:

I was going to reply to this, but no... just.. no.

I give up on you, Samus. I give up.

Because nobody buys Nintendo games because of the Club Nintendo program right?

You see right there, that's the reason why Club Nintendo is useless and fails in every way. You think PS owners are pissed off at PS Plus? Not any of my friends, I can tell you that. 

You're an extremely entitled customer that thinks you know better.  You don't, you know that right?  

You keep treating Club Nintendo as a subscription-based service when it's a rewards program.  You make the dumb point that you "need to buy games" to get points on Club Nintendo.  Of course you do, it's a rewards program.  There's no extra cost on the game you bought in order to get those points, it's just something extra for those who contribute to Club Nintendo's surveying system to help improve and give something extra to those who keep buying their games. They are NOT obligated to give you ANYTHING. Sony does NOT give you anything for buying their games, and your comparison does NOT match given you PAY Sony for PS Plus. It would be different if they offered PS Plus to people who simply bought games on their system.

Like others have said, can Club Nintendo be better? Sure, but that's not what you're saying. You're calling it useless and acting like it is something you are entitled to get more over. You're not entitled to anything more than just the game itself, you are lucky you get anything more than that. Whether you actually get to use it or not is obviously something different (and there are others who DO get to use them). 

Also, you talk about Nintendo having to make something for loyal fans, but I think you fail to realize that Sony and Microsoft both are not doing anything in that regard. So it really does not make sense what you're saying.