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2008ProchargedGT on 10 December 2014
FattyDingDong said:

I am an employee at Best Buy, we sell so many Xbox One Assassins Creed bundles for 350$ but hardly anyone buys any PS4 Destiny bundles for 450$ it is overpriced and the competition simply offers better.  We sold out of all GTA 5 bundles but I think Sony needs to do something about this because no one is buying the Destiny bundle we have had these in stock since september and no one wants them. There are no original PS4s either the only thing they have is their Destiny bundles. 

If Sony doesn't do anything about it I am 100% sure Microsoft will win December NPD.  This isn't just my Best Buy I checked all Best Buys and they all have Destiny bundles only. 

I think they should cut the price to 399$. That's what Microsoft would do.

you want a company thats responsible for selling the fastest selling console of all time to adopt the policy of one thats stuggling to sell and at this point cutting 1/3 of thier original price with incentives and hard price cuts!!!! Ive heard it all



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torok on 10 December 2014
kowenicki said:
 


I dont need to, I know ALL the details VERY well.

But this is over a decade ago.  The world has changed. 

I dont think you have been paying attention.  Sony is weak now, a shadow of its former self, it could never take over the living room (it wasnt about gaming per se, it was about home computing essentially) or anything else for that matter. 

Let it go.  Its wrong and its tired.

 

We are talking about consoles, Kowen. In this market, MS never posed a threat to anyone. They never won a gen, their best selling console is 360 (and all 3 PS consoles sold more than then and we are pretty much sure that PS4 will too). Sony beat MS with the PS2, beat them with the PS3 and beat them with the PS4. The fact that MS has way more money just shows how incompetent they have been on the console market.

It's not like they aren't trying. Massive price cuts in just one year, free games, buying timed exclusives, marketing, buying Minecraft. They are doing what they can, but they just apparently can't beat the competition in home consoles.

It's a battle for the living room. We all know MS strategy, what they would really, really want, would be a Windows-powered device in your desk (laptops, PC, etc), your hands (tablet), your pocket (WP) and your living room (XB1). They have an unified store now and they would like to be everywhere. Right now, they are succeding only in the first one. Both tablets and smartphones are dominated by Apple and Google and this won't change (I'm talking as a developer. OS markets are always monopolies. Nobody wants do develop for 10 OS. We have 2 now and that's already a lot).

The living room won't be for them because the main way to reach it is with console. We have smart TVs and smart devices plugged to TV, but the first one is where only Google is trying something and the second pretty much is a flopped market. Consoles still reign as the smart device in the living room and where we have a PS we won't probably have a XB, so it's a problem for their strategy. It isn't a threat to MS, of course, since it isn't their main revenue source by far. I would say that from the markets they don't have a substantial presence, the priority probably is phones, tablets and then living rooms. Anyway, it's not like they are liking too see their product not being anywhere close to dominant.

 

Edit: just to clarify, MS is the one that wants the living room to put a smart device capable of running apps. Sony just wants games and some streaming, with thei music and video services shoved in. MS is a software company, Sony is an entertainement company (their electronic devices are for that), so it's easy too see why they act different. The only problem is that when a PS takes the living room slot, MS won't put their smart device in there.



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

torok on 10 December 2014
kowenicki said:

It seems to be working too as each xbox does better than the last and they have the second most valuable brand on the planet.


This isn't a completely correct statement. 360 was a improvement of course, but from what we see right now X1 will end behind 360, it won't do better since they have a smaller market share now.



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

LudicrousSpeed on 10 December 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:


That was is not over. They accomplished slowing them down, but did not completely accomplish their goal. MS is the type of company that goes for the throat and they will buy up any real estate just to do it....ask Steve Jobs. Microsoft wouldn't have launched at the exact time that they did last year if Sony didnt blindside them in February of last year stating that they are launching the PS4. There were so many reports that MS was rushing to fix the clock speed of the Xbox One that it wasnt even funny. Sony makes them flinch,,,which is why they rushed the 360 launch before R&D could finish it causing one the greatest failure rate in gaming and one of the worst in electronics. Luckily for all of us MS has money and can fix their warranties and thus fix their PR. This is why we have so many fans in our Xbox Ones. Paranoia is key. ;)

As I said before, you're putting the cart before the horse. Sony is naturally more dominant than MS and this is why MS flinches everytime they do something. Ever seen Sony make a irrational move because of Microsoft when it comes to development? I know I haven't. They've made mistakes on their own, but not really out of response to Microsoft. Microsoft is a company that by nature doesn't like competition. Not only is Sony having an home entertainment console an issue for MS, but the fact that in its day it had its own OS was a threat. The fact that Sony turned them down as a partner kills them, which is why they came to the industry to destroy them. One of the old presidents of Xbox admitted it. I believe his name was Joachim. If Sony worked with Microsoft every Playstation would've most likely had a Microsoft developed OS. They like monopolization. NIntendo is not an issue for them...they wanted their real estate on Sony.

Joachim said the Xbox was pitched to Microsoft with the purest of intention. They wanted an American console made console and MS wasn't up to it until they had issues with Sony. Everyone has their reasoning and Sony got into the industry because of Nintendo screwed them over and never realized that the industry to were using to get revenge in the beginning turned into their bread and butter. 

lol, yes it is. You cannot honestly believe Sony today is as big a competitor to Microsoft as they were in the early 2000's. Just, no. You can't. I have more faith in you than that.

The war has been over for awhile now. Sony was Germany and Microsoft/Nintendo/Apple/Google/Roku, Inc. etc etc etc were the Allies. And you are Teruo Nakamura, hiding in a hut somewhere believing the war is still going on. Come on out, friend! You are relieved of duty.



maverick40 on 10 December 2014
FattyDingDong said:
Aj_habfan said:
It does seem that ever since that Black Friday bundle, people are a bit weary about buying a standalone/Destiny version of the PS4. I'm not sure why Sony wouldn't continue with it through the holidays...


They are stupid. Microsoft is a genius company and I think they deserve all the success they have been achieving in these past couple of weeks.





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BMaker11 on 10 December 2014
FattyDingDong said:
Intrinsic said:
So from your post...

Original $399 PS4 is outta stock (and I think for december there is a choose your own bundle thing going on for the original PS4s where after purchase you can get one of 4 PS4 games)

$399 GTAV+TLoU bundles out of stock too

$450 destiny bundle in stock.....

I think your store should order more of the SKUs that people actually want to buy or drop the price of the destiny bundle themselves to $399.


People just have more interest in the Xbox One the demand isnt too high for PS4s. My store is desperately trying to get rid of the Destiny Bundles they cut the price to 420$ for a week but that didn't help.

Vanilla PS4 is sold out. GTA Bundle is sold out. The more expensive bundle and old bundle with a game everyone is currently pissed at isn't sold out, and you take this to mean that people have more interest in XBone and demand isn't high for PS4....even though the other versions are sold out???

 

Nothing to see here, people. [Attempted] stealth PS4 bash/XBone praise thread has been sighted. We can leave this thread now



CosmicSex on 10 December 2014
FattyDingDong said:

I am an employee at Best Buy, we sell so many Xbox One Assassins Creed bundles for 350$ but hardly anyone buys any PS4 Destiny bundles for 450$ it is overpriced and the competition simply offers better.  We sold out of all GTA 5 bundles but I think Sony needs to do something about this because no one is buying the Destiny bundle we have had these in stock since september and no one wants them. There are no original PS4s either the only thing they have is their Destiny bundles. 

If Sony doesn't do anything about it I am 100% sure Microsoft will win December NPD.  This isn't just my Best Buy I checked all Best Buys and they all have Destiny bundles only. 

I think they should cut the price to 399$. That's what Microsoft would do.

From Now in stock.  This info supports the narritive that the GTA V bundle is hard to keep in stock.  This may be why you are having trouble finding any in stock at the store.

Dec 10 - 9:35 AM EST Best Buy : Bundle: GTA V & Last of Us Out of Stock
Dec 10 - 8:33 AM EST Best Buy : Bundle: GTA V & Last of Us In Stock for $399.99


cmeese47 on 10 December 2014

Why does Sony care the fact they are on your shelves shows they already sold the console your store needs to drop the price to move the units.



V-r0cK on 10 December 2014
FattyDingDong said:

I am an employee at Best Buy, we sell so many Xbox One Assassins Creed bundles for 350$ but hardly anyone buys any PS4 Destiny bundles for 450$ it is overpriced and the competition simply offers better.  We sold out of all GTA 5 bundles but I think Sony needs to do something about this because no one is buying the Destiny bundle we have had these in stock since september and no one wants them. There are no original PS4s either the only thing they have is their Destiny bundles. 

If Sony doesn't do anything about it I am 100% sure Microsoft will win December NPD.  This isn't just my Best Buy I checked all Best Buys and they all have Destiny bundles only. 

I think they should cut the price to 399$. That's what Microsoft would do.

They should definetely drop the price to $399 now because Bestbuy also has the deal where you get to pick 1 of 4 games free with the purchase of a PS4 for $399, and one of the games is Destiny.  So as a customer it just looks like the PS4 Destiny bundle is $50 more expensive just cause its white. 



HylianSwordsman on 10 December 2014

Yeah, I think that's more an issue with Destiny. People find Destiny so unappealing, the bundle is actually hurting console sales. Once those bundles are sold through though, I'm sure they'll never make a Destiny bundle again. We'll see new games bundled soon.