And that is the point im trying to make . Sony is not doing enough in NA which is a huge mistake they should not give it up without a fight. The PS4 could be doing so much greater if Sony wanted it. I understand you hate it when people critisize your favorite company but facts are facts.

I edited my post and added some more info.

I am not seeing a demand problem for the PS4. Especially if you are basing it all off a $450 destiny bundle. Why would anyone spend that when they could spend $399 and still get destiny. Unless they really want the white PS4.

It does seem that ever since that Black Friday bundle, people are a bit weary about buying a standalone/Destiny version of the PS4. I'm not sure why Sony wouldn't continue with it through the holidays...

Yes but the problem is Sony is not shipping any stand alone PS4s to us. The only thing we have from them is the white Destiny bundle. I don't think Sony believes in themselves.

They are stupid. Microsoft is a genius company and I think they deserve all the success they have been achieving in these past couple of weeks.

With a tone like that you are making it really hard to take you seriously.

The FACT is that sony does not need to go to the lenghts MS has gone to win NA for nov and december. They already did the hard part by building a 1M console lead to this point in NA. Even if they somehow lose 600k worth of that lead in the nov+dec. They are still 400k ahead in the only terriotory that the XB1 is relevant. And in the grand scheme of things, it makes zero difference to them whatsoever. 

Its not like they will get a prize for winning nov+dec... and you seem to forget that they won every single month of this year to this point. All sony needs to do is sell just as well or nearly as well as the XB1 in NA and continue dominating it everywhere else and they will be fine. Come january febuary march, if the XB1 is still outsellingg the PS4 in NA, only then can we start thinkig of what sony needs to do. But if come january/febuary we go right back to the PS4 outselling the XB1.... well.....

explain that to your boss...  uhh mr bossmen, we need more ps4s, but we have stock enough, we dont sale so much, so why ordering new? well mr bossmen those ps4s come with a turd, and noone wants to py 50$ extra for the turd...

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The console is better than the game though. Im guessing no one wants that cursed horrible game no matter what.

No, what I hate is when people make up stupid bullshit like this. Sony is not giving up, Sony just does not have any reason to panic. Not in the US. Most certainly not on a worldwide scale.

Not cutting the price of your console rashly because your competitor outsells you for 2 months a year, while you are still selling extremely well, is not something that deserves to be criticized but it's something that every half decent company would do. What do you think is going to happen now? You think the PS4 will stop selling? No, it won't, the PS4 will continue trucking along and raking in cash for Sony and in all likelyhood it will probably start outselling the X1 in the US again come next year. So there's really absolutely no reason to cut the price or to worry.

Well nice to see so many smart shoppers and not pick up inferior bundle. GTA V bundle is much better and the Xbox one bundle look mighty good at only $350. Especially if your a mom buying a gift. 350$ is already too much money !!!