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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 22nd of November 2014

RavenXtra said:
fireburn95 said:
So $50 cheaper and only sold 20k more units than PS4

#XboxComeBack

You realize that a comeback doesn't have to mean beating a competitor, right?

Yeah it's means catching up or closing the gap. Which it isn't doing.



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Samus Aran said:

Driveclub doesn't work properly (5.5 user score on metacritic lol) and Knack is crap. 

I'll specify: good IP! 


The fact that you used Metacritic userscore to support your argument pretty much discredits everything you say.



ethomaz said:

If it was 3.9 then they will say 4 times and not three... to say three it was really close to 3 times... if they had the change they will spin even to 3.5 times... 3 means they barelly sold over 3 times.

And I guess you didn't read the PR spin.

http://news.xbox.com/2014/11/xbox-one-sales-on-the-rise

"The response to this wave of blockbuster game releases and new bundles has been amazing, and sales have skyrocketed since the new price took effect on Nov. 2. Compared to the previous week, Xbox One sales in the US have more than tripled, which is exciting as more and more friends will be playing together this holiday. As we head into the busy holiday season Xbox One led generation 8 console sales in the US for the past two weeks. Shortly, we will have sold in to retailers more than 10 million Xbox One consoles."

After Nov 2 price cut... compared with previous week (week ending Nov 1st)... Xbone sales more than trilped in US... wave of blockbusters means Unity, MCC, CoD, and SO... so they cleary are talking about sales up to 12nd or at least 11st.

Yeap... my maths are right.


Actually no, over 3x for Microsoft can be anywhere between 3.1x-3.6x at the least. Before June NPD, MS said sales for the One were over 2x that of May, leading a lot of Gaffers to believe the number was 154k-160k, but in reality the number was 197k, which was a 2.56x increase.



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Ninsect said:
Samus Aran said:
Ninsect said:

DriveClub is a new IP. Knack is a new IP. Nathan Drake is next year. Kratos will be there.

Driveclub doesn't work properly (5.5 user score on metacritic lol) and Knack is crap. 

I'll specify: good IP! 

In that case...Why is Sony a requirement? Plenty of good new IP from 3rd parties.

Because I've always enjoyed Nintendo and Sony's first party line-up a lot more than third party games. Plus I can buy those on my PC, most of them anyway. For me consoles only hold value if they have good exclusive games on it. Of course there are plenty of people out there who see it differently. To each their own. 



FIT_Gamer said:

Yeah it's means catching up or closing the gap. Which it isn't doing.

No it doesn't. Comeback is used for other things aside from video game sales. Xbox One's comeback is that it is finally becoming popular and achieving pretty good sales despite starting off pretty badly. PS4 doesn't really have to be a factor in whether Xbox One had a comeback or not.



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Teeqoz said:
Samus Aran said:

Driveclub doesn't work properly (5.5 user score on metacritic lol) and Knack is crap. 

I'll specify: good IP! 


The fact that you used Metacritic userscore to support your argument pretty much discredits everything you say.

The fact that you think Driveclub isn't a broken mess descredits everything you say.

;)

Look at user scores of NIntendo games, they're almost always the same as the critic score. So are you saying the critic score also holds no value? 

The reason I didn't cite the critic score is because those reviews aren't true. 71% on metacritic is way too high for a game that doesn't even work properly! 



ryuzaki57 said:

Looks like the great GOTY Smash Bros wasn't strong enough to even remotely threaten PS4/X1 domination...

Btw where are the dudes who said Smash would surefire beat GTAV

And holy sh** at EU PS4!  EU PS4 on normal week flattened US PS4 on Black Friday!!!!!!!


US BF week is next week. Also there are 2 games on PS4 with a better rating than your GOTY SSB. The last of US 96/100 and GTA 5 97/100. 

*InB4 those games don't count.



Samus Aran said:
Ninsect said:

In that case...Why is Sony a requirement? Plenty of good new IP from 3rd parties.

Because I've always enjoyed Nintendo and Sony's first party line-up a lot more than third party games. Plus I can buy those on my PC, most of them anyway. For me consoles only hold value if they have good exclusive games on it. Of course there are plenty of people out there who see it differently. To each their own. 

But now you call Sony's games crap so clearly something has changed. Maybe you should give 3rd parties a chance. Games like Shadow of Mordor, Far Cry 4 etc.

How good is your PC? Can it run the latest games in better quality than PS4 and as fluidly?



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ryuzaki57 said:

Looks like the great GOTY Smash Bros wasn't strong enough to even remotely threaten PS4/X1 domination...

Btw where are the dudes who said Smash would surefire beat GTAV

And holy sh** at EU PS4!  EU PS4 on normal week flattened US PS4 on Black Friday!!!!!!!

Who ever thought that was not looking at the picture fully

it was gonna move systems but since there was no bundle not like 150k in 2 days

but I would say this

50k boost in NA for an unbundled game isn't that bad imo



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Samus Aran said:
Teeqoz said:
Samus Aran said:

Driveclub doesn't work properly (5.5 user score on metacritic lol) and Knack is crap. 

I'll specify: good IP! 


The fact that you used Metacritic userscore to support your argument pretty much discredits everything you say.

The fact that you think Driveclub isn't a broken mess descredits everything you say.

;)

Look at user scores of NIntendo games, they're almost always the same as the critic score. So are you saying the critic score also holds no value? 


that's because every PS exclusive on Metacritic has a load of Xbox fanboys giving it a zero user score and every Xbox exclusive has PS fanboys giving it a load of zero scores. 

Look at all the hyped up exclusives and look at all the zero ratings. Wii doesn't get that because that console is utterly irrelivant to the average fanboy. And I believe the same happens with reiews. Critics are less critical of Wii games compared to PS4/X1.