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*Sound Of Rain on 23 November 2014
phaedruss said:

Of course, but clearly the best looking wii u game will look nowhere close to the best looking ps4 game.

I agree. In the end, the best looking PS4 / XBO games will look better than the best looking Wii U games. When games look as good as MK8 & SSBU though, I don't think that's a big deal.

In the end it's about gameplay anyway so these differences aren't a big deal. 

As for the point of the thread though, yes, on a technical level, the PS4 is superior in the visual department 



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kljesta64 on 23 November 2014
Squeezol said:
kljesta64 said:
phaedruss said:
kljesta64 said:

its not Link its the real me with Links hat


I thought it was like a weird parody. Like the adventures of links slow half brother or something.

to answer your question it was not a joke


Wait. What?! O_o

I thought this little yellow guy shows that its a joke but apparently not..I was just playing around nothing serious and I hope nobody was injured.



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phaedruss on 23 November 2014
*Sound Of Rain said:
phaedruss said:

Of course, but clearly the best looking wii u game will look nowhere close to the best looking ps4 game.

I agree. In the end, the best looking PS4 / XBO games will look better than the best looking Wii U games. When games look as good as MK8 & SSBU though, I don't think that's a big deal.

In the end it's about gameplay anyway so these differences aren't a big deal. 

As for the point of the thread though, yes, on a technical level, the PS4 is superior in the visual department 


I'm sorry but the visuals of mk8 and ssbu are vastly over stated.



ICStats on 23 November 2014
MoHasanie said:

“At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. Both platforms are in the same relative ballpark, so the real work for releasing is getting your game certification-ready on each platform instead of crazy optimizations on one specific platform.”

This basically sums up the point of view of the developer.  They are a "little league" developer, so their #1 concern is getting certification on the platforms.  Their side opinion on technical boundaries is pretty worthless.



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*Sound Of Rain on 23 November 2014
TheJimbo1234 said:

No, they really are not. ANd with VR around the corner, this will be a huge problem for them.

I just played Super Smash Bros last night.

it looked great to me



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phaedruss on 23 November 2014
Chazore said:
phaedruss said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
phaedruss said:

You could argue that artstyle was always important but clearly there's a ways to go as far as graphics go. I mean these consoles can barely do 1080p 60 fps much less 4k with global illumination, high end AA, etc etc.

Of course graphics will continue to get better. I'm just saying that all 3 are capable of producing great looking games so the discussions about which is more powerful is a bit pointless to me because they are close enough to where artstyle can make a big difference.


Of course, but clearly the best looking wii u game will look nowhere close to the best looking ps4 game.

But will that matter to the Wii U gamer?, what sort of impact will that have?, I'm going to say nothing at all and then the whole "It won't look better" was all for nothing.

 

I love facts, I love learning from history but I dislike throwing facts to demean and make someone feel like they made a bad choice.

 

Who's demeaning anyone? Simply stating a fact isn't demeaning someone.



*Sound Of Rain on 23 November 2014
phaedruss said:

I'm sorry but the visuals of mk8 and ssbu are vastly over stated.

Don't be sorry, it's all a matter of opinion

I'm a PS4 owner but have played both MK8 & SSBU and they look pretty great to me. The artstyles really make the games look awesome. 



Abaddon on 23 November 2014

People that love facts and numbers are amazingly hilarious in this site just as much as any other.

1) PS4 is 30% faster.
2) GPGPU compute is the future
3) etc from all who dont know jack shit than what they read over the net from others

Yet in that case that pure numbers meant something as concrete as they want to believe the xbox cpu is indeed a bit faster BUT the voices in your heads make them come and say

4) the xbox cpu has no advantage.

Really makes no sense reading other people's comments when it comes to those things. Its like having an argument with a 15 year old that thinks he/she knows something better than anyone else.

On topic, really nicely said from the guy. Its already starting to show how correct he is about it.



phaedruss on 23 November 2014

Haven't benchmarks shown that the ps4 cpu is actually faster? If not the difference is negligible.



binary solo on 23 November 2014

Well it sure ain't vice versa.

I think Dragon Age inquisition is an interesting case study. On the one hand you have 900p 30fps locked. On the other hand you have 1080p 30fps not locked. For whatever reason Bioware benchmarked 1080p. Ps4 was able to achieve that with acceptable fluctuations in fps. Xb one was not able to achieve it with acceptable fps fluctuations. It's arguable certainly whether it was valid for PS4 to compromise fps for resolution, because it sets up the generation to prioritise resolution over fps, which is not necessarily a good thing. But what's clear is that the more powerful, over all, console is not going to be the one that outputs a lower resolution in order to achieve a stable framerate.



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