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DerNebel on 21 November 2014
BMaker11 said:
DerNebel said:

It more likely has something to do with the X1 announcement coming from a third party source that ioi trusts because they don't have any reason to tinker with those numbers (GfK through MCV), while the PS4 announcement comes from Sony, who could potentially want to present themselves in a better light by generously rounding up or something.

Still the end result doesn't really make the site look good.

But "nearly shipped 10M" from MS is another story, right? XBone was adjusted up 900K today, while with the UK announcement, they were undertracked by 200K. Where'd the other 700K come from, with no other announcements from "3rd party sources that ioi trusts"? And there's no presenting themselves in better light by rounding up, when they said they sold over 10M. Not "nearly 10M", not close to 10M, not "we sold 10M". They specifically said "over", so that means 10.1M and up, not 9.9M, but let's call it 10 for convenience or 9.75M rounded up to 10. Yet, ~9.75M was where PS4 was placed.....3 weeks after the 10M announcement.

First of all you don't have to attack me here, I'm just presenting an explanation, not saying I agree with it. Also I don't know where you are going with the nearly 10 million shipped thing, it's not like the X1 was adjusted to 9 million or something.

Oh and the X1 wasn't adjusted up 900k, it was adjusted by 400-500k.



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Namiirei on 21 November 2014

If it's the same numbers for Xone as last week (70/100k overtracked at least)...

November Npd will be hard for vgchartz, really hard.



Aj_habfan on 21 November 2014
BMaker11 said:
DerNebel said:
BMaker11 said:
Blood_Tears said:

 

But "nearly shipped 10M" from MS is another story, right? XBone was adjusted up 900K today, while with the UK announcement, they were undertracked by 200K. Where'd the other 700K come from, with no other announcements from "3rd party sources that ioi trusts"? And there's no presenting themselves in better light by rounding up, when they said they sold over 10M. Not "nearly 10M", not close to 10M, not "we sold 10M". They specifically said "over", so that means 10.1M and up, not 9.9M, but let's call it 10 for convenience or 9.75M rounded up to 10. Yet, ~9.75M was where PS4 was placed.....3 weeks after the 10M announcement.

Shipments from Microsoft showed that it was clearly undertracked by a large amount. Regardless of all the PR talk, I don't see how you can deny this.



small44 on 21 November 2014

Can PSV Mincraft version be a bit undertracked



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

BMaker11 on 21 November 2014
DerNebel said:
BMaker11 said:
DerNebel said:

It more likely has something to do with the X1 announcement coming from a third party source that ioi trusts because they don't have any reason to tinker with those numbers (GfK through MCV), while the PS4 announcement comes from Sony, who could potentially want to present themselves in a better light by generously rounding up or something.

Still the end result doesn't really make the site look good.

But "nearly shipped 10M" from MS is another story, right? XBone was adjusted up 900K today, while with the UK announcement, they were undertracked by 200K. Where'd the other 700K come from, with no other announcements from "3rd party sources that ioi trusts"? And there's no presenting themselves in better light by rounding up, when they said they sold over 10M. Not "nearly 10M", not close to 10M, not "we sold 10M". They specifically said "over", so that means 10.1M and up, not 9.9M, but let's call it 10 for convenience or 9.75M rounded up to 10. Yet, ~9.75M was where PS4 was placed.....3 weeks after the 10M announcement.

First of all you don't have to attack me here, I'm just presenting an explanation, not saying I agree with it. Also I don't know where you are going with the nearly 10 million shipped thing, it's not like the X1 was adjusted to 9 million or something.

My apologies if it seemed like I was attacking you. Wasn't my intention, at all. I'm just seeing a discrepancy in how numbers are configured here, and no excuse seems to be legitimate in how the operaters of this site are treating PS4 numbers vs XBone numbers.

And the 10M shipped thing was merely because that was the only other announcement regarding XBone's sales. If the UK numbers are accepted because they didn't come from MS, then just boost the Xbone by 200K. But other than that, what reasoning do they have for boosting by more than 200K, other than the MS announcement? If we're gonna go by an unwritten rule that manufacturers will try to give inflated numbers to make themselves look better, so VGC doesn't trust them without further research....then where did the other 700K come from to put it at 7.6M right now? When Sony announced 10M, ioi said "if Sony's numbers are to be trusted", but it seems like they had no problem trusting MS's numbers



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Jranation on 21 November 2014

Ps4 nearly 50% of the market



Pocky Lover Boy! 

OttoniBastos on 21 November 2014
Jranation said:
Ps4 nearly 50% of the market


I can feel it baby! 50% market share! 



DialgaMarine on 21 November 2014

Holy shit. PS4 should be breaking the 15 million mark before Black Friday. After the holidays, it could have 17 - 18 million. 0.0



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jlmurph2 on 21 November 2014
GribbleGrunger said:
BMaker11 said:

But "nearly shipped 10M" from MS is another story, right? XBone was adjusted up 900K today, while with the UK announcement, they were undertracked by 200K. Where'd the other 700K come from, with no other announcements from "3rd party sources that ioi trusts"? And there's no presenting themselves in better light by rounding up, when they said they sold over 10M. Not "nearly 10M", not close to 10M, not "we sold 10M". They specifically said "over", so that means 10.1M and up, not 9.9M, but let's call it 10 for convenience or 9.75M rounded up to 10. Yet, ~9.75M was where PS4 was placed.....3 weeks after the 10M announcement.

I didn't notice that. So the XB1 was adjusted by close to 1m.

No



BMaker11 on 21 November 2014
jlmurph2 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
BMaker11 said:

But "nearly shipped 10M" from MS is another story, right? XBone was adjusted up 900K today, while with the UK announcement, they were undertracked by 200K. Where'd the other 700K come from, with no other announcements from "3rd party sources that ioi trusts"? And there's no presenting themselves in better light by rounding up, when they said they sold over 10M. Not "nearly 10M", not close to 10M, not "we sold 10M". They specifically said "over", so that means 10.1M and up, not 9.9M, but let's call it 10 for convenience or 9.75M rounded up to 10. Yet, ~9.75M was where PS4 was placed.....3 weeks after the 10M announcement.

I didn't notice that. So the XB1 was adjusted by close to 1m.

No

6.7M --> 7.6M = 0.9M adjustment

I believe "close to 1M" is correct. Or should it have said "nearly adjusted to almost 1M more"? =/