both seem bad, XB1 just seems less  shoddy

still fun though 

Sad you got to use a POS game on all consoles to make your self feel better about your weaker console choice.

How interesting that when a single game in x1 outperform ps4 by 5fps and no resolution difference it matters but when it was Double resolution and/or fps most couldn't even ser the difference.
Wasulfunir seems quite happy of seeing others fail.
and lets not fool ourselves, Ubisoft made a poor job optmizing. When ultra beffed PC can't make 60fps you can't really complain of x1/ps4 cpu bottlenecking, your code is bad.

Tell me why you didn't see the other DF threads that have been posted? Where PS4 had the lead? Did you ignore them intentionally? And why would I be happy about it? I post almost every DF breakdown. It seems you are not liking it because of an unknown reason but that's not DFs fault or the fault of the person who made this thread. Ethomaz would've posted it if I hadn't ;)

I don't bother with most face-offs, read and left out because will hardly see anyone pushing the truth to make a point that is worthy replying.

some Always saying 720 was close to 1080p or other similar things.

And my comment to you aint about OP since that is Eurogamer and they say X1 is better version altough question the reason being poor dev job. It is about the subsequente comments.

Feel free to discuss aynthing you want with me but be direct and say what bothers you. Leaving comments without being concrete doesn't help discussion in any way.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6841620

you will deny that you are pushing this game being a little better to say hw is close but when there was a 50%+ difference you didn't say it was that the difference between hw?

It's no fun when the models have their faces on.

I don't deny anything.

But let's see what you said there:

- What exactly am I pushing? I said we don't know anything about the engine or the load it creates without profiling data. What is there to deny?

- And when didn't I say with games (I guess you mean these games?) performing better on PS4 it wasn't because of hardware? I always said PS4 has better hardware (well, mainly. GPU and RAM + RAM setup). What is there to deny?

Perhaps you mistook my statement. They are close when it comes to CPU performance, slides from UbiSoft showed this. They even showed that CPU ony Xbox One performs better (in their special case, that is).

If that is the case then I must agree. Before kinectless we had simulation of cpu with ps4 in front even with underclocking but the only analysis after is the ubi and quite possible x1 cpu will perform a little better than ps4 with kinect disable in general, and in ubi case by a considerable figure (altough I remember they comparing just one parameter. And gpgpu smoking it, quite strange they get that conclusion and make an engine so reliant on weak cpu).