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Captain_Tom on 10 November 2014
Kerotan said:


So I am not too sure. If xbox wins ndp, great! But, until x1 wins global, I don't think Sony really has an issue with the price of the ps4 imo. But if it does win global, and it wins it for November and December, then I might agree

Sony letting the X1 back into the game in the US could mean 10M more sales for the X1 there and 10M less for the PS4. WW win is easy and a given for Sony but in the US what I just said could be big in the long run. It could be the diff between MS going another round in the console business or not. 


"Could" is the key word here.  Sony has the luxury of sitting back and seeing the effects of this massive push.  They will react, but not until they know the full picture.



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Uabit on 10 November 2014

Well in the next days, X1 better sell good because of the price cut and MCC, after that better get it's ass ready to be raped by any decent holiday/black friday bundle sony makes like the ones being sold in the uk or the ones coming with GTA V.



alabtrosMyster on 10 November 2014

Do you have any numbers to back this up?

It seems to have been a thing to say this since early November or something (so far as we know early all weeks of October were largely dominated by PS4 sales) ... we are only 10 days in November... and there is only 1 XB1 bundle above the PS4 on the Amazone hourly top sellers... So it may be outselling the PS4, in the US, but we don't know by how much and as you point out, we certainly don't know if this would be a long therm thing, it certainly is local to the US, because even the Canadian store does not have the XB1 as a top selling item.

I would be surprised if the XB1 kept this pace for a long time, and I would be even more surprised if Sony did not do anything to counter it.



thx1139 on 10 November 2014
alabtrosMyster said:

Do you have any numbers to back this up?

It seems to have been a thing to say this since early November or something (so far as we know early all weeks of October were largely dominated by PS4 sales) ... we are only 10 days in November... and there is only 1 XB1 bundle above the PS4 on the Amazone hourly top sellers... So it may be outselling the PS4, in the US, but we don't know by how much and as you point out, we certainly don't know if this would be a long therm thing, it certainly is local to the US, because even the Canadian store does not have the XB1 as a top selling item.

I would be surprised if the XB1 kept this pace for a long time, and I would be even more surprised if Sony did not do anything to counter it.

Yes only 1 above the 1st PS4 then like 3 between the PS4 and the PS4 Destiny bundle. So still in all likely hood the X1 is outselling the PS4 right now by a 2-3:1 margin.  We know some PS4 BF Bundles are coming (By leaked advertisements), but the price is staying the same. The same leaked advertisements have the X1 discounted even further BF weekend.  Question also is are these PS4 bundles going to be BF weekend only or remainder of holiday shopping season.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

ijustlikegames:) on 10 November 2014
Soundwave said:

MS should keep the X1 $50 cheaper than the PS4 no matter what for the next year or two. If you're going to play, play to win. They have the money to do so where it's not a big deal to them. Sony doesn't have the pockets to price match MS. 


Sony doesn't have to price match them. They're selling just fine. There's rumored to be a PS4 bundle with 3 games coming and Sony doesn't usually announce their deals til closer to Black Friday. MS had to do something to boost sales, Sony doesn't so there is no reason for them to jump the gun and change their plans. MS MIGHT win NPD for a month but so what? Look at what they had to do to get these sales plus Sony is still going to win world wide even if they do lose a month in the U.S.  



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Neodegenerate on 10 November 2014

I love these threads. Let's overreact to a company not making a move for a single month out of what is going to be at least a 60+ month life cycle.



ijustlikegames:) on 10 November 2014

Do people really believe that MS is going to close and surpass the 1 million difference in 1-2 months? That means X1 will sell the same as the PS4 plus another 1 million+ on top of that...no way thats happening, not like the PS4 is just going to stop selling.



thx1139 on 10 November 2014
ijustlikegames:) said:
Soundwave said:

MS should keep the X1 $50 cheaper than the PS4 no matter what for the next year or two. If you're going to play, play to win. They have the money to do so where it's not a big deal to them. Sony doesn't have the pockets to price match MS. 


Sony doesn't have to price match them. They're selling just fine. There's rumored to be a PS4 bundle with 3 games coming and Sony doesn't usually announce their deals til closer to Black Friday. MS had to do something to boost sales, Sony doesn't so there is no reason for them to jump the gun and change their plans. MS MIGHT win NPD for a month but so what? Look at what they had to do to get these sales plus Sony is still going to win world wide even if they do lose a month in the U.S.  

Rumour, but no evidence. Another Black Friday advertisement leaked today for Target.

PS4 GTA5/LOUR for $399.99

X1 AC Bundle $329.99 with a $50 Gift Card bonus

So far all the leaks indicate the PS4 is staying at $399.99 and bundles are 2 games. Either GTA5/LOUR or LBP3/Lego Batman. All leaks showing X1 AC at $329.99.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Dr.Henry_Killinger on 10 November 2014
Tachikoma said:
how about we wait for actual figures before overreacting?

Nope :P



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ijustlikegames:) on 10 November 2014
thx1139 said:
ijustlikegames:) said:
Soundwave said:

MS should keep the X1 $50 cheaper than the PS4 no matter what for the next year or two. If you're going to play, play to win. They have the money to do so where it's not a big deal to them. Sony doesn't have the pockets to price match MS. 


Sony doesn't have to price match them. They're selling just fine. There's rumored to be a PS4 bundle with 3 games coming and Sony doesn't usually announce their deals til closer to Black Friday. MS had to do something to boost sales, Sony doesn't so there is no reason for them to jump the gun and change their plans. MS MIGHT win NPD for a month but so what? Look at what they had to do to get these sales plus Sony is still going to win world wide even if they do lose a month in the U.S.  

Rumour, but no evidence. Another Black Friday advertisement leaked today for Target.

PS4 GTA5/LOUR for $399.99

X1 AC Bundle $329.99 with a $50 Gift Card bonus

So far all the leaks indicate the PS4 is staying at $399.99 and bundles are 2 games. Either GTA5/LOUR or LBP3/Lego Batman. All leaks showing X1 AC at $329.99.

Thats my point...they don't have to price match. A PS4 GTAV and LOUR for 400 is a great deal and you're crazy if you think it won't move consoles, same with the LBP3 and Lego Batman 3 one. MS can't compete with Sony at that price so they had to do a temporary price cut. Sony doesn't need a price cut to compete. If it gets to the point where they're getting completely crushed in the US then yeah they might do a price drop but unlike the X1 the PS4 isn't in a position where it has to.