A more descriptive title would be "3 minutes of people saying hello in NYC".
Of course, like most SJW propaganda, this video is meant to appeal to emotion instead of actual facts or logic thus the loaded title.
A more descriptive title would be "3 minutes of people saying hello in NYC".
Of course, like most SJW propaganda, this video is meant to appeal to emotion instead of actual facts or logic thus the loaded title.
pepharytheworm said:
Sure. whatever country women are treated equally to men. :/ Is there a country without mysogyny?
"Oh by the way she should have worn cargo pants or something cause men can't control themselves very well if they can see fitted pants, or better yet never go outside again 'cause the problem is her. She was asking for it, she was wanting it, and she should feel privileged for recieving it. Oh and she should have totally said "no" because we all know strange men talking to you on the street respond very well to that. I guess I can't hit on women anymore on the street or even say hi anymore, that's how I was going to meet my wife." That seems to sum up half the responses.
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there will never be a situation where women and men are treated equally for the obvious reason that men and women are not equal
this is why i don't expect that feminism will change the notion that men are to protect women or take out the gender divisions in sports for example
however men and women have the same rights which is what is important
i can't help but shake the feeling that people who keep calling for equal treatment for women don't really get that being a man isn't all cake and rainbows
they don't seem to get that equality means that women would have to assume a far greater portion of the hard physical tasks that men are required to do to keep things functioning
one of which is dying for lies oh sorry i mean to keep the country safe
o_O.Q said:
there will never be a situation where women and men are treated equally for the obvious reason that men and women are not equal this is why i don't expect that feminism will change the notion that men are to protect women or take out the gender divisions in sports for example
however men and women have the same rights which is what is important
i can't help but shake the feeling that people who keep calling for equal treatment for women don't really get that being a man isn't all cake and rainbows they don't seem to get that equality means that women would have to assume a far greater portion of the hard physical tasks that men are required to do to keep things functioning one of which is dying for lies oh sorry i mean to keep the country safe |
I've seen a few situations where women learn first hand what it's like to be treated equal. Most involve the women trying to abuse the husband only to get some of the abuse in return and then be shocked when they're the ones carted off to jail.
method114 said:
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yeah you know its funny when we hear about domestic violence it paints a particular picture
but when someone actually looks at the facts in question we see another story
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-sacks/researcher-says-womens-in_b_222746.html
http://www.mintpressnews.com/woman-aggressor-unspoken-truth-domestic-violence/196746/
it seems like women are just as likely to initiate domestic violence, however, because of the difference in strength between women and men, women are harmed more so we hear of them more
now obviously i'm not advocating violence in any form, i'm just saying that in a lot of these cases we are fed biased information with an agenda to demonise one side
also men are fed a lot of contradictory information on how they should behave from women, in that in some scenarios aggression/violence are encouraged in men and if they are incapable they are deemed less manly; then in others it is deemed bad because it jepardises female safety
pepharytheworm said:
Sure. whatever country women are treated equally to men. :/ Is there a country without mysogyny?
"Oh by the way she should have worn cargo pants or something cause men can't control themselves very well if they can see fitted pants, or better yet never go outside again 'cause the problem is her. She was asking for it, she was wanting it, and she should feel privileged for recieving it. Oh and she should have totally said "no" because we all know strange men talking to you on the street respond very well to that. I guess I can't hit on women anymore on the street or even say hi anymore, that's how I was going to meet my wife." That seems to sum up half the responses. |
Actually, the more "equal" the country, the bigger the present feminist movement is. Scandenavia has a huge vocal feminist movement.
Some of the guys on that video are bang out of order, however it definitely goes both ways (luckily I'm not particularly attractive so it hasn't happened to me) and I know guys who get cat called in the street etc just exactly the same as is happening to her.
The problem with the current feminism movement is it has no interest in equality as it claims. This is why it gets so many people's (including women) backs up. It just seems to be a self serving means of promoting themselves while claiming a wad of donations to help continue a movement that likes to "highlight" how bad things are for actually, some pretty damn privileged individuals (given how much "check your privilege" is bandied around).
When these supposed we want equality groupies actually start demonstrating a care and passion for true equality rather than constantly playing the victim card, maybe the wider internet and public would pay more attention. Until it's acknowledged that it isn't just a 1 way street of rah rah powerful men get everything while we just get objectified and bullied, there's going to be a lot of noise but absolutely nothing will come of it.
This IS harassment. For anyone doubting whether the greetings count as sexual harassment, ask yourself this; How many of those guys also greet other guys on the street like that? You know the answer - none of them. That's what makes it sexual harassment, because them "being nice" is only a cover to hitting up conversation with a woman that did not make eye contact with them before.
contestgamer said: This IS harassment. For anyone doubting whether the greetings count as sexual harassment, ask yourself this; How many of those guys also greet other guys on the street like that? You know the answer - none of them. That's what makes it sexual harassment, because them "being nice" is only a cover to hitting up conversation with a woman that did not make eye contact with them before. |
" How many of those guys also greet other guys on the street like that? You know the answer - none of them. That's what makes it sexual harassment"
yeah i think we can say with certainty that these men wanted to have sex with that woman
however, trying to initiat contact with someone you're interested in having sex with is now harassment?
"because them "being nice" is only a cover"
that's true men men do behave in gregarious ways towards women with the intention of forming relationships with them, but how else would they form relationships?
this is what feminism is doing to men its actually making men such as yourself feel guilt for being sexually attracted to women
i'll just say that imo there's nothing wrong with being sexually attracted to women and acting on that desire
however, there are obviously boundaries that have to be respected until the woman you are pursuing allows you inside those boundaries
seeing posts like this make me wonder how people are ever going to have sex when these ideaologies get a stronger hold on society
and i do believe they will, although i suppose i have a clue to the answer already
As a Brooklynite myself I have many lady friends that have to deal with this on a regular basis in NYC. It's a real problem here (more so than other places i imagine). Everyday leaving the apartment is like walking into a battle ground for women in the city.
Those of you that are saying the guys in the video "are just being nice" are displaying a shocking lack of understanding in regards to subtext. While some are more aggressive to others, they are all in essence trying to get laid and are sexualizing the girl walking down the street.
Let's not play dumb here, we all know when it's appropriate to talk to someone. Perhaps there is some eye contact, maybe you are at a social setting that invites conversation, etc. With videos like this women are telling us men that they are not comfortable with this type of interaction. And you know what? We should all be able to respect that. No one is saying you can't say hi to someone. We're asking you to be aware of the situation
run away!
I think this is more of a New York problem. I don't see this happening in most cities in the West. I think they kinda cherry picked New York for that reason.
And guys who cat call at passing women are *lame*. Approach with something better than that or don't even bother. Sorry fellas, step your game up.
That said a lot of the guys who get violently angry at "feminists" have their own insecurities going on (ie: they couldn't get laid or got shut down by some girl they were crushing on for years/months or just can't make heads or tails as to how to attract a woman and now are bitter about it and lash out at "feminists" every chance they get).
Not to say that this "experiment" wasn't obviously tailored to make guys look bad (you pick a girl that has a Kim Kardashian type look, have her wear tight jeans that accenuate her rear end, and have her walk through predominately black/urban neighborhoods ... why not an average/below average looking skinny white girl with no booty? Why not pick an area like suburban Indiana?).
On the flipside though how many guys would be comfortable with gay men leering at them and making comments like "mmmm" and "hi gorgeous" as you walked by? Or how about a gay guy following you for a couple of blocks trying to pick you up? You may say "well they're just trying to be nice", but I bet a lot of guys crying bloody murder here would change their tune real quick once they had a group of guys leering at them like a piece of meat as they walked past, lol.
I can see both sides of the coin here. Certain men need to be more respectful and confident. Certain women need to stop cherry-picking every instance to make men look bad.