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celador said:
With the releases going forward into next year, X1 needed to be hitting it's stride now. Second tier launches, some big third party releases, and some good exclusives. It will improve over the next few months of course, but the fact that the console is already under 100k again is not a positive sign.

The first half of next year is very one sided right now. Bloodborne looks great and will sell some systems, the fans of the Souls series are are very much 'hardcore' gamers. The Order has received some negative previews, and may turn out to be completely average. But, it is a very easy game to market, a shooter with werewolves and a cool steampunk London. There are a few smaller Sony exclusives like Tearaway Unfolded and Ratchet and Clank, but those will not move systems. Japan should also start to look a bit healthier next year, with Persona 5, DQ Heroes and MGSV pushing systems (the latter is essentially an exclusive there). Sony have third party marketing deals with Battlefield and Batman in the first half of next year as well which are comfortably bigger franchises than Evolve and The Witcher. 

MS on the other hand have Screamride, Fable Legends, State of Decay 2 (?) and the two marketing deals for the first half of next year. Personally, I can't see the two exclusives moving consoles at all. I think the holiday line up for X1 will be great next year, with Quantum Break, Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider and almost certainly Forza 6. But until September, I don't think X1 is looking strong on the exclusives front. Sales will still be up of course, they always are in a console's second year, but if anything I think the gap will be wider. 

MS needed to start making ground some point this year if they were ever going to. MS have started the race while Sony are still on their warm up lap, but Playstation is winning by some distance in sales. MS can still make the X1 a successful console commercially, and I think they will, but it is pointless to specualte about how it could ever catch PS4, because it won't.

I think you missed Uncharted 4 in your post :P



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celador said:
With the releases going forward into next year, X1 needed to be hitting it's stride now. Second tier launches, some big third party releases, and some good exclusives. It will improve over the next few months of course, but the fact that the console is already under 100k again is not a positive sign.

The first half of next year is very one sided right now. Bloodborne looks great and will sell some systems, the fans of the Souls series are are very much 'hardcore' gamers. The Order has received some negative previews, and may turn out to be completely average. But, it is a very easy game to market, a shooter with werewolves and a cool steampunk London. There are a few smaller Sony exclusives like Tearaway Unfolded and Ratchet and Clank, but those will not move systems. Japan should also start to look a bit healthier next year, with Persona 5, DQ Heroes and MGSV pushing systems (the latter is essentially an exclusive there). Sony have third party marketing deals with Battlefield and Batman in the first half of next year as well which are comfortably bigger franchises than Evolve and The Witcher.

MS on the other hand have Screamride, Fable Legends, State of Decay 2 (?) and the two marketing deals for the first half of next year. Personally, I can't see the two exclusives moving consoles at all. I think the holiday line up for X1 will be great next year, with Quantum Break, Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider and almost certainly Forza 6. But until September, I don't think X1 is looking strong on the exclusives front. Sales will still be up of course, they always are in a console's second year, but if anything I think the gap will be wider.

MS needed to start making ground some point this year if they were ever going to. MS have started the race while Sony are still on their warm up lap, but Playstation is winning by some distance in sales. MS can still make the X1 a successful console commercially, and I think they will, but it is pointless to specualte about how it could ever catch PS4, because it won't.

Hit the nail on the head. I sort of disagree with games like Tearaway and R&C not moving systems. I think with good advertising and appealing to the non-shooter audience, Sony can move PS4s to fans of other genres. And after seeing gameplay footage of The Tomorrow Children last night, I was really impressed with the countless amount of things you can do in that game and the game just screams "different". These games help differentiate the PS4 from its competition while also appealing to the mainstream audience. This is a problem X1 has on top of having its biggest exclusives consolidated to Holidays 2015. You need to have a consistent flow of unique exclusives and that's what the PS4 is doing.



I reckon they could be right. It's certainly got the games to do it. This whole 1080p vs 900p crap is ridiculous anyway. The PS3 caught up despite being sub HD in some multiplats with noticeably worse framerates.



Sure, Xbox One could hit its stride in 2015, because that's its last chance in the foreseeable future.

Simply put: If Halo can't get the Xbox One back on top, nothing will, and his gen will be all Sony's. Unless of course, some catastrophe befalls Sony and/or the PlayStation brand.

If Xbox One does catch up to PS4, it's not happening anytime soon.



"Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

-Samuel Clemens

I think 2015 will be a very good year for Xbox. Really looking forward to seeing games like Phantom Dust and Scalebound.



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It's more likely the Wii U will have a spectacular 2015 than the XBox One. And Nintendo refuses to advertise anything, so that's not very likely.

Thing is, as well as the X1 is doing, the PS4 is doing better. It has a wider variety of titles and by the time we get to 2015 it will have the superior used game market in North America. When it comes to directly competing with the PS4, the X1 has thusfar lost. I see no reason for that to change.



Locknuts said:
I reckon they could be right. It's certainly got the games to do it. This whole 1080p vs 900p crap is ridiculous anyway. The PS3 caught up despite being sub HD in some multiplats with noticeably worse framerates.

Wrong! People only think about US when talk about 360 vs PS3 but the true is, PS3 never had to catch up 360.It was released 1 year after and still outsold 360 WW most of the time. 

Why? because Playstation 3 had something xone doesn't have....Worldwide brand recognition!

 

European countries are Playstation loyals

Japan even with all the problems is still a wining for playstation against xone

USA ,basically the 360 market space,is now going back to ps4

 

Xone doesn't have europe and japan to juice up its sales like PS3 had.The moment Xone lost USA for PS4 was the moment Microsoft lost any chance of outsells Sony.And even if they recover USA,it will not be 2:1 ration like it was last gen.



OttoniBastos said:
Locknuts said:
I reckon they could be right. It's certainly got the games to do it. This whole 1080p vs 900p crap is ridiculous anyway. The PS3 caught up despite being sub HD in some multiplats with noticeably worse framerates.

Wrong! People only think about US when talk about 360 vs PS3 but the true is, PS3 never had to caught up 360.It was released 1 year after and still outsold 360 WW most of the time. 

Why? because Playstation 3 had something xone doesn't have....Worldwide brand recognition!

 

European countries are Playstation loyals

Japan even with all the problems is still a wining for playstation against xone

USA ,basically the 360 market space,is now going back to ps4

 

Xone doesn't have europe and japan to juice up its sales like PS3 had.The moment Xone lost USA for PS4 was the moment Microsoft lost any chance of outsells Sony.A even if they recover USA,it will not be 2:1 ration like it was last gen.

Nah. Xbox could overtake PS4 in NA (biggest market don't forget) and the UK. The rest of Europe will be a tough sell. Japan doesn't even matter anymore as a console market. I reckon it could catch up.



MS should probably just focus on outselling the Wii U at the moment.



Locknuts said:
OttoniBastos said:
Locknuts said:
I reckon they could be right. It's certainly got the games to do it. This whole 1080p vs 900p crap is ridiculous anyway. The PS3 caught up despite being sub HD in some multiplats with noticeably worse framerates.

Wrong! People only think about US when talk about 360 vs PS3 but the true is, PS3 never had to caught up 360.It was released 1 year after and still outsold 360 WW most of the time. 

Why? because Playstation 3 had something xone doesn't have....Worldwide brand recognition!

 

European countries are Playstation loyals

Japan even with all the problems is still a wining for playstation against xone

USA ,basically the 360 market space,is now going back to ps4

 

Xone doesn't have europe and japan to juice up its sales like PS3 had.The moment Xone lost USA for PS4 was the moment Microsoft lost any chance of outsells Sony.A even if they recover USA,it will not be 2:1 ration like it was last gen.

Nah. Xbox could overtake PS4 in NA (biggest market don't forget) and the UK. The rest of Europe will be a tough sell. Japan doesn't even matter anymore as a console market. I reckon it could catch up.


are you delusional? doesn't matter if USA is the biggest market.Like i said even if MS overtakes US it will not be like last gen where x360 was 2:1 against PS3.

MS would have to sell their console to aliens to catch up an hope sony doesn't do the same.