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I don't know whether it would be considered a plot hole however in Dragon Age: Origins, Branka goes into the deep roads for 2 years, you go to find her and bam, you not only find her but what she was looking for too. You then travel back to resolve the new leader issue in what? A couple of days?

Same with Urn of Ashes, long lost, found not long after you start looking.

Borderlands 2 - Get regenerated every time you die, other people permanently die in the game.



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OttoniBastos said:
Heavy Rain: the thread


Yup.  Though I've seen people try to explain some stuff, which seems they're pulling out alot of stuff not in the game to plug those holes.

But hey, I've got some questions about it.

What hard evidence do the police really have on Ethan carter to justify openeng fire on an unarmed man at a warehouse?  From the looks of it, all they had was hearsay from his wife, who was distressed over losing her son and they weren't together anymore.  I mean I'd honestly like to know what sort of hard evidence do they really have on the guy?  He had no motive really, and I doubt they could really take anything said from his wife as gospel given the fact that she may still blame him for the loss of their first son.  And even before that, that relationship didn't even seem that great.

Also, can the police issue a warrant for your arrest, and then have the media say you ARE the killer(not that you COULD be or may be in connection with) on national TV without said concrete evidence and being charged?  

If police see a vehicle speeding towards a road block and have not identified who is inside the car or got in touch with their superiors, do they really have the authority to open fire on said vehicle, on a crowded highway?

If your child is killed...why would you withold crucial pieces of evidence from the police? Old man in store did this.  And even if he did give it to the police....do they really give back evidence in an open case?  How come people are being obstinate asses and tight lipped, but conveniently something happens at that time, and I help you out and suddenly you spill the beans?  How come that happened twice.  Did Shelby set it up?  How did he know these people would react that way?

Why would he wake up to origami models?  The killer was following him around?  He subconsciously made them?  Drowning bodies??

Why don't the main characters use an umbrella?  Surely pneumonia exists in Heavy rain's world.  It may be a metaphor for something...but it seems pretty silly silly and makes the characters come off a bit inhuman imo.  Doesn't help that the dialogue, acting and animation adds to that opinion.

Old fixer guy in store murder.  Still doesn't make sense.



Halo: Reach (I guess it has some minor spoilers)

 

· How the fuck did the Noble team escape from the facility after finding Cortana, if they were cornered by the Covenant?

 

· Alternatively, how is it that Noble 6 falls from the space to Reach's land and he goes around happily, without a scratch, yet Master Chief felt from the mesosphere to Earth's and entered in a comma in order to sustain the damage?



poklane said:

Some plotholes from the original inFAMOUS:

  • How did Kessler get his powers in inFAMOUS in his timeline? In Cole's timeline (Kessler is Cole from the future but he traveled back in time) Kessler gave him his powers, so Cole really got his powers from his future self. So then how did Kessler get his? It can't be the same way, because in Kessler's timeline there seems to be no track of The Plague (an effect of the original Ray Sphere's detonation) and if it was the same way you'd create an infinite loop.
  • Also, who is The Beast is Kessler's timeline and how did he get his powers? In Cole's timeline, The Beast is John White and Cole activated John's powers by either blowing up or activating a Ray Sphere. So how did John White get his powers in Kessler's timeline? And is The Beast John White at all in Kessler's timeline? In Kessler's timeline The Beast is a Conduit which destroys all life and it's environment, but in Cole's timeline The Beast activated all Conduits at the costs of normal peoples' lives to save humanity from The Plague caused by the original Ray Sphere. This means that in Cole's timeline the Ray Sphere was activated by Kessler so Cole could battle The Beast. However without the original Ray Sphere there wouldn't have been a second Ray Sphere and there wouldn't have been a Plague, which then would cause there being no Beast, thus meaning everything would be fine and normal. This would leave me to believe that The Beast from Kessler's timeline wasn't the same person as in Cole's Timeline, otherwise you instantly create an infinite loop.

If this was Doctor Who we'd call this a Moffat loop

Mofffaaaaaaat!! *shakes fist*



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Zekkyou said:

If this was Doctor Who we'd call this a Moffat loop

Mofffaaaaaaat!! *shakes fist*

... a what? Something to do with Time travel I guess right? please explain for my dumb self.



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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - When you're in Sky Loft and flying around there's wall to wall cloud coverage but on the surface it's always sunny!



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XanderXT said:
Fallout 3: Why is it that despite potentially having a super mutant and a ghoul in your party, they refuse to go into a room full of radiation. Radiation heals them and all they need to do is enter a code to prevent a disaster. But nope, all they say is it's your destiny and refuse to do anything.

Rather large spoilers going on in this thread, it could be an idea to mention that in the thread title I think.

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Not going to name any names, but I'd like to educate or remind some posters in this thread what the definition of a plot hole is:

"A plot hole, or plothole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that creates a paradox in the story that cannot be reconciled with any explanation. These include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline." -Wikipedia

In other words, it's not a plot hole if the characters in the plot made some questionable choices, make cutscene or plot decisions that don't fit with actual gameplay, or the game world defies some real world natural laws or physics. It's only a plot hole if something that happened that logically should have grounded the events to a halt with no possible explanation as to why that event happened.

So for instance, Samus' refusal to use her full arsenal in Metroid: Other M is not a plot hole, because Malkovitch commanded her not to. But poklane's example from Fallout 3 is a plothole, because logically, it would not be possible within the game's world.



The Fury said:

... a what? Something to do with Time travel I guess right? please explain for my dumb self.

Doctor Who's current show runner is a chap called Steven Moffat. He seems to get a lot of enjoyment from fucking with people, which can result in some pretty amusing situation when you have a time travel show with absolutely no logic limitations. The thing he does most frequently is have story lines that take place in the wrong order, loop them back on themselves, and then throw it out a logic window. It's hard to give examples without spoiling the plots of some series, so just imagine a plate of pasta. That's the template he seems to use for his stories :p We called these cluster fucks a Moffat loop, usually proceeded by a gif like this:

He does sometimes over do it, and ends up with episodes that are more annoying that clever, but for the most part he's a great writer. I think his work with Sherlock is often better, but i enjoy having him run DW as well.