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I think this is a relevant question since most people have come across it, especially if they use the internet.

In my opinion, I think everything about it is bad and negative. For the viewers they are fed a lie about sexuality. It gives them a distorted idea of what sex should be like. I think it desensitizes viewers to seek more and more extreme stuff to get off. It also builds up an unhealthy expectation of what their woman should be like and do. It conditions the mind to see people as things or objects instead of as people with feelings, hopes, desires etc.

As for the people in pornography, especially the women, they are degraded and dehumanized. The conventional "facial" in porn just shows what pornographers think of women - that they are a piece of garbage. It's tantamount to spitting in someone's face. Many women in the porn industry (a lot enter when they are 18 or 19) have been sexually abused growing up so their psyches are really messed up (a connection to why they got into porn?).

If you think it is completely okay, would you not flinch if your mother, sister, or daughter (or future daughter) did pornography?

As corny as it sounds I think pornography destroys the soul. It's focused on the carnal with its warped depiction of sexuality which hurts people spiritually. There is something not quite right with separating sex from love. We are not just mere animals, we are spiritual beings. When we use others as mere tools for our selfish pleasure as shown in pornography there is something immoral and backwards about it.



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OooSnap said:

If you think it is completely okay, would you not flinch if your mother, sister, or daughter (or future daughter) did pornography?


 I'd flinch more if they tried to prove the existence of god.



totally agree with you, but its going to be nearly impossible to eliminate porno.

the low lifes who participate in hardcore porn, i hope they flunk in life because they truly do not deserve to be making that kind of money. its unfair if you think about it.



Statistics show that the spread of pornography lowers sexual crimes.

So, yeah i don't have any problem with it because all statistical evidence says it lowers things like rape which are much more serious.

As for lies about sex... uh. That comes WAAAAY before Porn. Society as a whole does it. In porn is the only place where it makes sense.

The postives outweigh the negatives, everyone is a willing participant and there are people who want to buy it.  I can think of many more things in current society that are worse. 



What is your stance on hardcore gaming?

I think this is a relevant question since most people have come across it, especially if they use the internet.

In my opinion, I think everything about it is bad and negative. For the viewers they are fed a lie about reality. It gives them a distorted idea of what life should be like. I think it desensitizes viewers to seek more and more extreme stuff to get off. It also builds up an unhealthy expectation of what their life should be like and what to do. It conditions the mind to see people as things or objects instead of as people with feelings, hopes, desires etc.

As for the people in gaming, especially the bad guys, they are degraded and dehumanized. The conventional "head shot" in games just shows what gamers think of people - that they are a piece of garbage. It's tantamount to kicking someone in the nuts. Many kids in the gaming industry (a lot enter when they are 8 or 9) have been growing up with computers so their psyches are really messed up (a connection to why they got into gaming?).

If you think it is completely okay, would you not flinch if your mother, sister, or daughter (or future daughter) played games?

As corny as it sounds I think gaming destroys the soul. It's focused on the carnal with its warped depiction of fun which hurts people spiritually. There is something not quite right with separating games from reality. We are not just mere animals, we are spiritual beings. When we use others as mere tools for our selfish pleasure as shown in games there is something immoral and backwards about it.



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... I seriously dont care . Until it doesnt affects society in a major way it can exist as much as it wants . Also , at least this is another way women can make big bucks :P



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Actually studies show the opposite. Studies show consumption of pornography is correlated with higher sexual assault rates, aggressive behavior, desensitization to rape and more likely to accept the rape myth. One study found that 86% of rapists regularly used pornography, with 57% admitting actual imitation of pornography scenes in commission of sex crimes.

Source:

Allen, M., Emmers, T., Gebhardt, L., & Giery, M.A. (1995). Exposure to pornography and acceptance of rape myths. Journal of Communication, 45 (1), 5-26; Saunders, R.M., & Naus, P.J. (1993). The impact of social content and audience factors on responses to sexually explicit videos. Journal of Sex Education and Therapy, 19 (2), 117-131.

Also researchers Zillmann and Bryant found that the male subjects who had been exposed to the massive amounts of pornography considered rape a less serious crime than they had before they were exposed to it; they thought that prison sentences for rape should be shorter; and they perceived sexual aggression and abuse as causing less suffering for the victims, even in the case of an adult male having sexual intercourse with a 12-year-old girl. The researchers concluded that "heavy exposure to common nonviolent pornography trivialized rape as a criminal offense."

If you are still not convinced, how about some of the more socially liberal European countries blaming pornography (which is available on regular TV)for a recent string of teen gang rapes. Click here http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,721884,00.html



OooSnap I'm glad your on this site.

If you believe, Athiest or not, that the people making porn don't have serious physiological issues, well the I put you the same boat as people who think the moon landing was faked. Actually worse.



"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.


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OooSnap said:

I think this is a relevant question since most people have come across it, especially if they use the internet.

In my opinion, I think everything about it is bad and negative. For the viewers they are fed a lie about sexuality. It gives them a distorted idea of what sex should be like. I think it desensitizes viewers to seek more and more extreme stuff to get off. It also builds up an unhealthy expectation of what their woman should be like and do. It conditions the mind to see people as things or objects instead of as people with feelings, hopes, desires etc.

As for the people in pornography, especially the women, they are degraded and dehumanized. The conventional "facial" in porn just shows what pornographers think of women - that they are a piece of garbage. It's tantamount to spitting in someone's face. Many women in the porn industry (a lot enter when they are 18 or 19) have been sexually abused growing up so their psyches are really messed up (a connection to why they got into porn?).

If you think it is completely okay, would you not flinch if your mother, sister, or daughter (or future daughter) did pornography?

As corny as it sounds I think pornography destroys the soul. It's focused on the carnal with its warped depiction of sexuality which hurts people spiritually. There is something not quite right with separating sex from love. We are not just mere animals, we are spiritual beings. When we use others as mere tools for our selfish pleasure as shown in pornography there is something immoral and backwards about it.


 



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I think it's completely okay. It's not like the women are being held at gunpoint in a "star in my porn movie or die" situation; they're choosing to do it out of their own free will. It's no different from starring in a regular movie, except a porn movie includes nudity and sex.

As for the effect it has on others, well, I don't think there's any scientific study that's definitely proved a correlation between pornography watching and misogyny, objectivization, or desensitization.

And finally, not everyone is as religious as you appear to be. It's okay if you abstain from watching it on grounds of spirituality, but should you really force those views on others?



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

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