forest-spirit said: If Hyrule Warriors is a Zelda game...then I have to wonder what the heck these Legend of Zelda games are that I've been playing for 15 years. Their nothing alike! On a more serious note, I'm happy about the game doing well in the US (and Europe afaik) as I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would. Might even try some other Musou games.

All direct comparison are off to be honest. People shouldn't really be argueing the semantics by this point, you're either interested in comparing the two or you're not. 

I completely understand what the OP is doing and its an interesting comparison, but its also a tad unfair for obvious reasons. But equally its most definitely not a real ''Zelda'' game and is essentially DW with Zelda Skins and some unique features.

No point in comparing it to One Piece and Gundam spin-offs though. There are no set precedents for Gundam or One Piece games. When you say Gundam or One Piece games the only requirement is that their characters and other things specific ot the manga and anime are in there. Nothing else, they are pretty much blank slates as far as game design goes. Whereas Zelda is an established game franchise. A mainline Zelda game has specific gameplay features and are expected.

You might as well compare mainline Zelda games with something like Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, given the fact that it isn't made by the Zelda teams, or has similar gameplay.

I'm not sure why people would be comparing a spin-off to sales of a mainline franchise to begin with.

Besides, I thought the point of this whole Hyrule Warriors thing was to make Dynasty Warriors style gameplay more palatable to the West, that Koei was using it as their gateway into the Western market. No source on that, but was just a feeling.

Warriors Orochi 3 is hard to recommend to newcomers. It's the 3rd part and it features many fighters from Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors and other Warriors Games. So it's hard to follow the story, if you haven't at least played some Warriors games. However, if you don't care about the story then get it. The gameplay is like usuall.

I would recommend Samurai Warriors Chronicles. It's on the 3DS and not the WiiU. However, you learn something about japanese history and the touch control is used to switch the active fighter.

Couldn't hurt. and W101 definitely deserves more sales.

teigaga said: forest-spirit said: If Hyrule Warriors is a Zelda game...then I have to wonder what the heck these Legend of Zelda games are that I've been playing for 15 years. Their nothing alike! On a more serious note, I'm happy about the game doing well in the US (and Europe afaik) as I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would. Might even try some other Musou games. All direct comparison are off to be honest. People shouldn't really be argueing the semantics by this point, you're either interested in comparing the two or you're not.  I completely understand what the OP is doing and its an interesting comparison, but its also a tad unfair for obvious reasons. But equally its most definitely not a real ''Zelda'' game and is essentially DW with Zelda Skins and some unique features.

Sure it can be seen as unfair but fairness isn't a requirement when making comparisons. If it was we would barely be able to make any comparisons at all due to advantages/disantvantages such as marketing, userbase, market changes etc.

Hyrule Warriors is a Warriors game and so it makes the most sense to compare it to other Warriors games. The inclusion of Zelda lore doesn't change that, though one has to remember that all comparisons are essentially useless if you just compare without doing any kind of analysis and so the power of the Zelda brand should be taken into consideration when looking at the results.

I think that was the goal, although I don't find any official source to that, but it seems obvious. And the sales comparison tbone makes is for that reason very relevant, because it shows if that strategy is successful or not.

Guys, can't we just agree that we're comparing a Warriors (musou) game to anpther Warriors (musou) game?

I had no too big problems with the story. It is explained in the initial cutscene: they fought Orochi before (probably in Warriors Orochi 1 and 2) and now it comes back. Well.

My bigger problem is, that in difference to Hyrule Warriors I have difficulties in navigating the level, because to me much looks very similar. The level-design in Hyrule Warriors is a bit better, so that I can recognize different parts of the level by loking at it. maybe it is only because I played it not so much so far, probably that gets better with more playtime.

Nice. I'm on the fence to buy this, Captain Toad and Smash U.

What the hell are you talking about?