Your line of thought is wrong: we are not dealing with variables, but constants... each game takes a single True or False value on "Is it X360 exclusive?". You can't have it both ways as it would disrupt the real definition of exclusive.

So what about PC gamers who want to see what X360 has to offer compared to PC? They will either get plastered bythe so-called PC/360 "exclusives", or they won't notice the small prints and convince themselves that games like Age of Conan are 360 only.

What is the real reason why PC isn't considered as a gaming platform here? Is it for 360 gamers wanting to get "exclusives" leverage over PS3 owners? If anything, PC is alot more alike to X360 than the PS3 is. Both share similar architecture, both have an unusual overlap of games, both have superior online services compared to the other platforms. X360 is the closest thing the PC has as a rival.

And the funny part is, I've heard so many 360/PS3 gamers say that PC is dieing and that all the gamers are switching to the Xbox 360 and PS3 (even though it's BS). So tell me, if many X360 owners consider the PC as a rival platform, why would they be permissive in loosening the term "exclusive" to include PC games? 

One looking at how the list is structured, it's hard to notice which are the real exclusives and which are PC/360. There is no difference in both, except the adding of "/PC" that is completely drowned on green.

And it's not about just that. What is in the OP is like when some people just keep saying how Wii is not "next-gen" because it doesn't support HD. It's totally disregarding a valid platform for the sake of their own e-penises.

What about people trying to use this thread as a comparison between the Wii and the Xbox 360? What happens to those PS3/360 "exclusives" that are not on the list? The PS3 would have to be excluded too, so in that case you could add those PS3/360 multiplats to the list?

I'm not doubting the effort the OP made with the thread, but the truth is PC/360 is NOT exclusive, unless you gang up PC and 360 against the rest.

One word for OP: I'm not asking you to remove the semi-exclusives, though it would be the most accurate thing to do. But how about splitting the list into 2 lists: the first for the real exclusives, and the second for the PC/360 games. Atleast it would make things more noticeable.

Anyway, perhaps you guys are right that this argument has been taken too far. I'm sorry for taking so much of your time and your topic.  I would still at some point appreciate you separating the PC multiplats, but I won't continue to debate the point.  I appologize for being so aggressive with my opinions on the matter, and I hope there aren't too many hard feelings.

That's because you didn't give an example.  I can though: MLB 08 is on the PS3, PS2, and PSP, and no, it's not exclusive.

Aaahh...I guess that's a difference of corporate strategies. M$ ported Halo over to the PC, so I guess it's not an exclusive either. Well, M$ is mroe concerned about maximizing profits and boosting the EDD, while Sony is ??? Boosting blu-ray??? Anyway, guess Xbox doesn't really have many if any true exclusives then, since M$ will certianly look to port too Human and others, Alan Wake onto the PC when they get a chance...they are such slaves to the profits...no sense of purity!

To qoute an earlier poster: CLAP CLAP CLAP. Thank you for putting this eloquently.

Also, to the person that said most people that have an issue with the 360/PC "Exclusive" issue dont own 360's, look right here, I bought my 360 before my Wii, PS3 or PC, I however do not concider Gears of War, the Halo Franchise or Mass Effect as exclusives for the system, because they are on the computer, and better on the computer.

The sad fact is, the OP or any other 360 fan wont post a list of 360 only exclusives because it would be pathetically short and sadly lacking in quality.

Your line of thought is wrong: we are not dealing with variables, but constants... each game takes a single True or False value on "Is it X360 exclusive?". You can't have it both ways as it would disrupt the real definition of exclusive.

We aren't dealing with constants. Its all in shades of grey. The term exclusive means different things to different people when they look through the lens of their own perspective. People who are PC gamers have a different perspective to people who aren't. You can't nail down a definition for exclusivity because different people have different perspectives and valid insights into their own expectations and desires. From the angle of someone wishing to compare console to console, the term "exclusive" is strictly valid from that perspective. Furthermore this whole thread is designed for people making comparisions from THAT perspective, so therefore using the term "exclusive" in this context is correct.

So what about PC gamers who want to see what X360 has to offer compared to PC? They will either get plastered bythe so-called PC/360 "exclusives", or they won't notice the small prints and convince themselves that games like Age of Conan are 360 only.

They can see quite plainly can't they? They can see the words "Pc/Xbox360" written under the games. Its asinine to assume ignorance, especially from as PC gamers are used to reading the fine print on the back of game boxes.

What is the real reason why PC isn't considered as a gaming platform here? Is it for 360 gamers wanting to get "exclusives" leverage over PS3 owners? If anything, PC is alot more alike to X360 than the PS3 is. Both share similar architecture, both have an unusual overlap of games, both have superior online services compared to the other platforms. X360 is the closest thing the PC has as a rival.

I think you've missed the point here, I don't think anyone here would ever say that the PC is NOT a valid gaming platform. I have my own PC - 2.4ghz C2D, 3gb Ram, 8800gt etc, and I intend to play every game I can on it. This thread is a tool for those wishing to look at the offerings of a console. Its made from the perspective of a PS3 vs Xbox360 comparison, not including PC games is also making an assumption that people who are making the comparison are willing and or able to use a PC to play these games on.

And the funny part is, I've heard so many 360/PS3 gamers say that PC is dieing and that all the gamers are switching to the Xbox 360 and PS3 (even though it's BS). So tell me, if many X360 owners consider the PC as a rival platform, why would they be permissive in loosening the term "exclusive" to include PC games? 

PC gaming is thriving! Do you think im not a fan of the PC platform because I have TWO gaming PCs and I use one of them my multimedia centre. I've enjoyed Crysis on High on a 53" TV and because of it, I cannot be impressed by any console game from a technical perspective. Artistically yes I can apreciate good work there but the technical limitations are obvious to me.

This isn't about excluding the PC as a viable platform! Remember its all about perspective.

One looking at how the list is structured, it's hard to notice which are the real exclusives and which are PC/360. There is no difference in both, except the adding of "/PC" that is completely drowned on green.

And it's not about just that. What is in the OP is like when some people just keep saying how Wii is not "next-gen" because it doesn't support HD. It's totally disregarding a valid platform for the sake of their own e-penises.

Its quite clear to me, so would it make you happier if Xbox360/PC games are coloured red? Would it make them stand out enough for people to take note of the differences? Its an easy fix and if it'd make more people happy I don't see why the OP can't make that simple change. Make it bolder/larger font. Whats the compromise to make you happy?

What about people trying to use this thread as a comparison between the Wii and the Xbox 360? What happens to those PS3/360 "exclusives" that are not on the list? The PS3 would have to be excluded too, so in that case you could add those PS3/360 multiplats to the list?

That would be a further complication, but if you're dissatisfied then I'll work with you to create a thread thats more representative of the different markets. A sticky in the games section with PC/Wii/PS3/Xbox360 games and I would work with you on it if you want.  

I'm not doubting the effort the OP made with the thread, but the truth is PC/360 is NOT exclusive, unless you gang up PC and 360 against the rest.

One word for OP: I'm not asking you to remove the semi-exclusives, though it would be the most accurate thing to do. But how about splitting the list into 2 lists: the first for the real exclusives, and the second for the PC/360 games. Atleast it would make things more noticeable.

Formatting would be difficult and it would hurt the ordering system hes got. My earlier point of just writing the title in a different colour would suffice to make it stand out right?