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shio said:
Squilliam said:

This site deals with economics and behavioural analysis on a daily or weekly basis. It is typical when doing this type of analysis to control the independant variables other than the ones being analysed. Because it is unknown how the PC market specifically effects the PS3 or the Wii and even the Xbox360.

Your line of thought is wrong: we are not dealing with variables, but constants... each game takes a single True or False value on "Is it X360 exclusive?". You can't have it both ways as it would disrupt the real definition of exclusive.

Squilliam said:

As the OP said, this is a tool for Xbox360 owners or people with an interest in purchasing/comparing an Xbox360 and want to know about what games are incoming for the system.

So what about PC gamers who want to see what X360 has to offer compared to PC? They will either get plastered bythe so-called PC/360 "exclusives", or they won't notice the small prints and convince themselves that games like Age of Conan are 360 only.

What is the real reason why PC isn't considered as a gaming platform here? Is it for 360 gamers wanting to get "exclusives" leverage over PS3 owners? If anything, PC is alot more alike to X360 than the PS3 is. Both share similar architecture, both have an unusual overlap of games, both have superior online services compared to the other platforms. X360 is the closest thing the PC has as a rival.

And the funny part is, I've heard so many 360/PS3 gamers say that PC is dieing and that all the gamers are switching to the Xbox 360 and PS3 (even though it's BS). So tell me, if many X360 owners consider the PC as a rival platform, why would they be permissive in loosening the term "exclusive" to include PC games? 

Squilliam said:

The people who have a PC are obviously intelligent enough that when they read the thread they can self-select for themselves games that they know they won't play on the Xbox360 anyway. So why is it an issue from this perspective when the OP makes it specifically clear which games are fully exclusive and which games are split between the PC/Xbox360?

One looking at how the list is structured, it's hard to notice which are the real exclusives and which are PC/360. There is no difference in both, except the adding of "/PC" that is completely drowned on green.

And it's not about just that. What is in the OP is like when some people just keep saying how Wii is not "next-gen" because it doesn't support HD. It's totally disregarding a valid platform for the sake of their own e-penises.

Squilliam said:

For people using this thread as a tool for comparison between the Xbox360 and the PS3 the PC is usually excluded, and for good reason.

What about people trying to use this thread as a comparison between the Wii and the Xbox 360? What happens to those PS3/360 "exclusives" that are not on the list? The PS3 would have to be excluded too, so in that case you could add those PS3/360 multiplats to the list?

Squilliam said:

Besides anything else, arguing semantics here is bad form. Why don't you take the debate somewhere else, like another thread if you're interested in discussing it. Its not appropriate to do so here, since the OP has laid the ground rules and put in many hours of effort to give us all this tool to use.

I'm not doubting the effort the OP made with the thread, but the truth is PC/360 is NOT exclusive, unless you gang up PC and 360 against the rest.

One word for OP: I'm not asking you to remove the semi-exclusives, though it would be the most accurate thing to do. But how about splitting the list into 2 lists: the first for the real exclusives, and the second for the PC/360 games. Atleast it would make things more noticeable.

 

To qoute an earlier poster: CLAP CLAP CLAP. Thank you for putting this eloquently.

Also, to the person that said most people that have an issue with the 360/PC "Exclusive" issue dont own 360's, look right here, I bought my 360 before my Wii, PS3 or PC, I however do not concider Gears of War, the Halo Franchise or Mass Effect as exclusives for the system, because they are on the computer, and better on the computer.

The sad fact is, the OP or any other 360 fan wont post a list of 360 only exclusives because it would be pathetically short and sadly lacking in quality.



I own all three current consoles and a great gaming rig, now thats out of the way.

This space Reserved for the Nuggets of Wisdom dropped by Bladeforce:

"Why post something like this when all it will get is PS3 owners blinded to reality replying? BOTH THE PS3 AND BLUE-RAY WILL NOT LAST 3 YEARS! TECHNOLOGY CHANGED TOO FAST!"

"is it Wii FIt that has sold as many as PS3's sold? Thats a LOL Look at the total sales of software is it just me that sees Nintendo titles hitting 10m+ and you say they arent making a difference? Another LOL!"

"Hell, with all the negative hype Sony spin, people just aren't interested cost is too high and to get the true HD experience (1080p, 7.1 surround) you will need a $1000+ system. THAT IS GOING TO DO IT IN A RECESSION! PS4 will not happen"