Good point.  I totally forgot this was a last gen game as well.

Yeah exclusives are the main reason I'm a console gamer. God Of War is my second favourite franchise and it is the main reason I'm a PlayStation gamer (along with Uncharted and Gran Turismo) and was the reason I bought a PS3, PS Vita and now PS4 (in anticipation of God Of War IV). Otherwise I would have been a PC gamer.

However we have to also consider that many play on consoles for the online services, the trophies, or due to some multiplats being better on consoles, like Assassin's Creed.

The difference between Xbox and PS2 was very slight compared to between Wii and the Xbox 360,

I know. That's the point.ps2 to Xbox was 45% difference in theoretical flops. Xbox one to ps4 is around the same. So like then the end result is moot.

I said Xbox one to ps4 isn't like Wii to 360.IIf gamers care for best multiplatform graphicstthen ps4 or Xbox one is not the choice. pc is. as I said console gamers choose for exclusives not a few extra pixels.

In both cases, the difference between consoles was still obvious. The gap between the Wii and the 360 is simply much bigger.

Yeah I agree. But the ps2 held up well in the end. With games like ico and god of war 2. Sure it couldn't do half life 2 or halo without serious cuts to scale, but Xbox one will be the same. It will do fine. Games like horizon 2, Ryse show in the first year games look awesome. And quantum break looked phenominal and is apparantly claimed to be 1080p.

Sure ps4 will have some extra effects or a few extra pixels. But it won't matter. There's a reason Microsoft are trying so hard with first party. Halo 5 will look amazing, as will gears 4. People who loved gears and halo will without question buy Xbox one. If rare do banjo and conker right then Xbox may find new buyers from old school minty fans. Xbox one is 10 times more powerful than 360 was. Looking at halo 4 that's awesome. Games will look great as time goes on.

I wonder what size demographic you represent on a market percentage basis. I'm tempted to make a poll.

It seemed like last gen, there was a fair amount of 2 console owners on VGC and a smaller percentage of 3 console owners with a mix of console plus PC players.

I'll say that the main reason to buy multiple consoles of a given generation is for the platform exclusives, followed by being able to play the best version of multiplatform games and then choosing who one wishes to play with online since not everyone is on multiple services/platforms.

I bought all three fairly early in the 7th gen and the growth of Steam made that my fourth platform, but I found myself mainly playing on one platform later in the generation since I can only play so many games per month. The other consoles were only used for exclusives by then. Not really worth it unless one plays over 20 hours a week. 

I started with the PS4 with the intention of picking up a Wii U once the library filled in and a new Zelda and Metroid were released but now I'm not even sure I'll buy one at all if that happens 3-4 years into the product cycle. Not terribly interested in digging through the back catalog for more value since I already have a back catalog on the PS4 less than a year into release. 

Currently, there isn't anything on the XBO that would make me buy one and re-subscribe to XBL. Gears and Halo are the only exclusive franchises left on XB that I'm interested in and I see no point in playing any multiplatform games on the XBO. Not much value in buying a $500 console and subscribing to a service for only a few games since the number of hours it would be used would be pretty minimal unless the XBO became my new TV box. 

The whole resolution gate thing with the x1 and ps4 to me is completely stupid. Nevertheless, you know that you messed up big time when even people that should be happy (Xbox fans) see through the stupid.

Seriously, even xbox fans recognize that what the x1 can do at 900p, the ps4 can at 1080p. People aren't that fanatic about their console that they'll accept perfect parity, Ubisoft.

Nah, I prefer consoles.  I have a gaming PC but I don't use it in my livingroom on my big TV, so I very rarely buy games for PC on the argument of better graphics.   Generally on PC I play games that are PC only.

I don't think everyone cares about exclusives that much.  Sure core gamers often do, for example I care about exclusives on all 3 that's why I usually get all 3, but the majority of people who buy consoles play COD, GTA, FIFA and other multiplats.

For example, Halo 3 has ~14% attach rate on XB360.  Gears & Uncharted games have below 10% attach rates on their console.  So, sure there are lots of people who can't live without Halo/Gears/Uncharted but they're actually a minority among console gamers.  Only 4 out of the top 20 selling games on PS3 are 1st party.

::looks at Ubisoft::

Trying to avoid debates you say?