Kinda suprised that Vita did 20k this month.
Kinda suprised that Vita did 20k this month.
ethomaz said: You are spreading the FUD again. GAF reachs the exactly number after the first "buzz" posters... the leakers just started after ~6 hours of the NPD thread was opened. The "almost double" come from jornalists like Geoff. GAF have every single month the exactly number of sales for all consoles. PS4 reached 4,488,000... the gap in US is exactly 997k.
You create (or dream) numbers that didn't exists to try to make the leakers looks wrong... please stop embarrassing yourself. |
The fact that this has been repeated to him a quadrillion times by several users is outrageous. The GAF leakers show the numbers through hints rather than giving them straight out since NPD will get pissed. Therefore, to deny the "leaks", which are actually hints, is to deny the actual figures. Just utterly inexcusable...
vivster said:
Wait what?^^ Since when do those system share the same market demographic? And how do you explain that the sales of the Wii U increased after the release of the new consoles while selling nothing in the year before? |
You see thats the funny thing and the exact problem nintendo is facing right now. Now they are competing in the eaxct same demographic with the PS4/XB1 in the very same way they were competing with the PS2/XB with the GC. People shouldn't get it twisted. Nintendo makes game consoles. When you consider their best selling games, these are games that regardless of how cartoony they may look are actually made for a real gamer audience. I am talking about the people that will buy mario, bayonetta, zelda, metroid, splatoon...etc.
And they are failing at competing in that same space. The people that made the wii what it was are people that honestly rather play games on a cell phone.
And sales of teh wiiU has increased simply cause there is more to play on it now (also don't forget a certain MK8 bundle). And next year it will increase again or at least it should if its follwoing the trends of every console released before today. In the very same way that PS4/XB1 sales should be better next year than they are this year. Its in 2016 that things will get really bad for the wiiU and the XB1 too.
Dark_Feanor said:
I´m not a console warrior, I don´t like this stupid war. I´m a computer engineer, I joing in here in the time when the console war was all but over, so, last year was a first for me. I just like technology and financial modeling. I aways try to be reseanable and give even a little bit of proof to back my claims. We all have the right to say what we belive is happening and gonna happen. Ethomaz banstreak was mostly because he stated opinion as fact "UNDENIABLE FACTS", even if he some times is right. He´s been much better lately. I don´t care if there is or there will be a PS2 domination. That is pointless, you as a Brasilian would understand whem I tell that I´ve never seen a original PS2 game disc. NEVER. Besides at that time I was busy plaing Warcraft 3, Diablo 2, Counter Striker... on my PCs and in LAN Houses. So, all you guys read here is MY OPINION, nothing more. When I say it´s a fact I would say "accordin to X" or link a page. |
I understand that as during gen I saw 5 in one friend house and I mocked him for being rich (and saw several when a cousin came back from Japan) besides that just some in stores (for show, never saw anyone buying it). Thanks to work I'm proud of my 124 retail discs on ps3 and understand why x360 exploded here (but because of bans on live several onwers decided to have original.
you haven't given proof and the links ethomaz already disproven. But you have been complaining since the beggining of the year about NPD and ps4 advantage. All your actions are from a warrior but don't bother me because I accept I am one.
you have every right to an opinion and I wellcome it. But you have claimed untruth as fact. Ethomaz was streakbanned for bad behaviour not by stating opinion as fact or being stuborn that isn't against rules. Kowen, you and several others do that without even a warning because it isn't enforced. He was banned due behaviour, cheapshots and namecalling and flaming as myself also have been. Then he left for some months and is back a lot better. I would preffer to be free to troll and joke with others but understand why they enforce against and started obeying.
you care about PS4 becoming ps2 2 and your posts reflexct that don't denny.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
Dark_Feanor said:
Apple claims their overwelming lead in the USA. Google Android claim theirs WW. Microsoft always reiterate they have 95% of computer market... Again, my theory that NPD has become more restrict. |
So basically because sony doesn't toot its horn every chance it gets then they probably have something to hide? You may look at things like NPD wins or its dominace in europe as brag worthy, but hasit crossed your mind that sony keeps all that stuff aside till their conferences t then brag on milestones instead of monthly victories?
you know/ This like we have exceeded our 5M goal for ending of march? We have sold 10M? We just hit the 15M console worldwide and are the best selling console on the market? .....etc
But yh, sony must have something to hide. They are obviously guilty of that till they talk up and brag about monthly victories.
160rmf said:
...sorry couldn't resist. I think i kind contribute in that, the console warrior inside me that i didn't acknowledged really grew in this generation |
We are all warriors and pationated. Go brazil, go Sony.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
Congraz Sony !
”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”
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Intrinsic said: So basically because sony doesn't toot its horn every chance it gets then they probably have something to hide? You may look at things like NPD wins or its dominace in europe as brag worthy, but hasit crossed your mind that sony keeps all that stuff aside till their conferences t then brag on milestones instead of monthly victories? you know/ This like we have exceeded our 5M goal for ending of march? We have sold 10M? We just hit the 15M console worldwide and are the best selling console on the market? .....etc But yh, sony must have something to hide. They are obviously guilty of that till they talk up and brag about monthly victories. |
Remember after Sony announced 7.2 million PS4's sold-to-consumers during the spring and not update their sales figures until Gamescom? Not to mention, over 10 million is a nice even number (remember, Sony said over 10 million, not reached 10 million). If they were to constantly share sales numbers, it'll get annoying, so it's better to share the numbers when they hit a milestone, as you've said.
Dark_Feanor said:
Apple claims their overwelming lead in the USA. Google Android claim theirs WW. Microsoft always reiterate they have 95% of computer market... Again, my theory that NPD has become more restrict. |
Sony is trying a humble image if you haven't noticed. Ms in PC space have always been know to be bullies. IPhone and galaxy are both doing strong. When ps3 was winning WW and x360 in USA the gloating was acceptable because the other was a capable adversary, now would just seem petty. Have saw Sony gloat over Xbox og and n64 on NPD or anyone gloat over ouya?
i have been here on previous war,
EDIT: and remember mega drive vs snes wars in a way.
about NPD, who usually sets conditions and restrictions is the customers not provider (unless it is governament service), so NPD wouldn't lose customers forbiding then of releasing their info and Ms wouldn't have to say they don't release numbers in summer because it is a slow period.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
I see someone is taking this seriously. This thread just keeps getting better and better.
Popcorn time!