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Dark_Feanor said:
Nicklesbe said:

Then why waste your time here every single time with the same nonsense and bad logic? If you were truly enjoying it you would be gaming right now, having fun, instead of spending so much time hating on the competition and throwing illogical fits when the console of your choice doesn't sell better than the competition. I can't help but wonder if you ever game all since you spend so much energy worshiping Xb1 and trying to piss in sony's cheerios.

I can´t disprove I´m a XB1 worshiper. Sorry, I´ve insisting since the begin of this genaration. But it looks like if you are not in the "PS4 is the best, 200mi total sales, PS2 era, return of the king" you are a delusional XOne fanboy, destined to die alone in that barren wasteland... 

I only post here when I´m at my work. But it won´t be for long, I intend to do master degree in software/hardware co-design next year.

I rarely use my computer at home, only to play Dota 2. Out of my 6 hours not sleeping at home I usualy play 2 hours (1 Dota match, 2 Titanfall an 1 Battlefield 4 matches).

PS: I´m also a athiest and dwell in Richard Downkins and Chirstopher HItchens boards. So, that would explain why I don´t like data with no proof and conformis.

Hitchens and Dawkins both research their points, meticulously, and with a great deal of citation (Oddly enough, I just finished reading two of their books) to back up their points.  You simply claim things, with no actual backing.  Ala the overtrack claim about Gaf, that I still don't think you've provided a source to. 

We have official numbers, from NPD, you now have to provide actual facts to support your claim that it's invalid.  Could what you say be true?  Sure, but without actual supporting data to prove that point, it cannot be seriously held up against something as trusted (industry-wide) as NPD.  You don't have to like the data, that's not a requirement, but you do actually need to build a case, with references, as to why the data shouldn't be trusted.



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Mr Khan said:
Don't make this into a debate about the character of users, guys. I'd hate to have to start smacking folks around in here.

I see one user making damage control in every single post here.

He can't accept most gamers perfer the PS4 over Xbone and create baseless arguments to try to defense his beloved Xbone.

I just don't understand why he is posting in this thread if he don't believe in NPD numbers... he did't believed in 10 million sold by Sony too.



ethomaz said:
Mr Khan said:
Don't make this into a debate about the character of users, guys. I'd hate to have to start smacking folks around in here.

I see one user making damage control in every single post here.

He can't accept most gamers perfer the PS4 over Xbone and create baseless arguments to try to defense his beloved Xbone.

I just don't understand why he is posting in this thread if he don't believe in NPD numbers.

See, it's even less than that.  Can we honestly say that 'most' gamers prefer PS4 to Xbox One?  Most gamer's haven't moved on from last gen, so who the heck knows (Yeah, it's splitting hairs, but...trying to be fair here).  What we can say is right now, the PS4 seems to be overwhelmingly more popular, and that NPD supports that perception.  His issues is he's not providing any kind of reference, citation, links etc... to substantiate anyone questioning the veracity of NPD's figures.



poklane said:
celador said:
Any Xbox PR yet?

Nope, looks like there might be nothing positive for the Xbox brand for September, excluding XB1 Destiny > PS4 Destiny (excluding PS4 bundure).

They have to think hard 100 times now to spin bad news to become a happy news for their  fans :) lol. Or else some fans might rage and troll on this site :D



mornelithe said:

See, it's even less than that.  Can we honestly say that 'most' gamers prefer PS4 to Xbox One?  Most gamer's haven't moved on from last gen, so who the heck knows (Yeah, it's splitting hairs, but...trying to be fair here).  What we can say is right now, the PS4 seems to be overwhelmingly more popular, and that NPD supports that perception.  His issues is he's not providing any kind of reference, citation, links etc... to substantiate anyone questioning the veracity of NPD's figures.

You have ~25 million gamers in the current gen... ~12 million choose PS4, 7 million Wii U and 6 million Xbone... I call that most because 12 >>>>>>> 7 > 6.

So most gamers are perfer the PS4.

It is not even an assumption from my part... it is a fact.

Can it change? Of course but right now PS4 continue to be the most choosen console.



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Intrinsic said:

Stop trying to play the victim.. I strongly doubt thats why anyone would think of you as a delusional fanboy. You also don't have to exagerate. And if you find yourself doing just that to make your point then you know you have a problem.

 

  1. I doubt any sane thinking person expects the PS4 to sell up to 200M. If we had a poll right now and 1000 people voted, I would not expect as much as 2 people on here to seriously vote that the PS4 will sell 200M. If you ignore the 998 poeple that say it will sell between 100M to 140M in its lifetime and focus on the 2 that says 200M, then the joke is really on you.

  2. The WiiU came out almost 24 months ago The XB1 and PS4 came out within a week of eachother. Now it doesn't matter why or how the Ps4 did it, whats imporatnt is that in the time since their launch the PS4 has managed to outsell the wiiU and is fast appraoching outselling it 2:1. It as already outsold the XB1 2:1 and the lead is still growing. I don't know about you, but how else would you say a console is dominating its competition? If we are dealing with facts, then there is no reason why the Ps4 should suddenly stop selling and at its current rate you do realize that when the PS4 is at 80M you would be lucky if the XB1 is at 35M?

    Its not like the PS3 that will somehow comeback. The PS3, even with all its bad press, still won the 360 every single year in two of the 3 major regions. There is no silver lining here and now, and these are just facts. There is no single major territory that the XB1 is dominating or winning consistently if winning at all to make any kinda difference on the global PS4 sales. You won't be delusional if you said that the PS4 will not reach 100M. But you would be delusional if you somehow just ignored all the facts in front of you all the market trends, all that MS has already done and how they had no effect on the PS4 and just somehow go around saying the XB1 will come back and win or something like that.

  3. Lastly, being a lover of one platform shouldn't mean you can't at least give credit where credit is due. Go on... just try it. Say "good job to sony and the PS4, they did everything right this gen and so far deserve it". It may actually make you feel better.

 

I desagree with basicaly all of your predictions.

You cannot turn the wheel of time and pretend thing will work the same way they did 20 years ago.

Nintendo, with the Wii opened more than 30mi WW gap and that meant nothing three years later.

In fact I´ve congratulated Sony many time since they gain the good will, souls and hearts of harcore gamers "purists". THEY WON, PERIODE!! 

We now have a leagin of armchair computer engineers that will pixel count and run performance test to ever single game to prove a few extra pixels and frames is the most important part of a game... Yes my friend, now that both consoles are almost identical the console warriors have to find amunition.

But what about the future, even the near future? I´m not calling the doom of console gaming nor Sony´s demise. However, home consoles will change if they want to survive.

I´ve already think my 4 years iPod touch feels more advanced than my XOne. I can´t bare the idea that in 5 years the PS4 and the Xone would retain their current forms.



It will be fun to see this holiday sales.



Dark_Feanor said:

Nintendo, with the Wii opened more than 30mi WW gap and that meant nothing three years later.


You do know that you can take that same premise and do this:

Microsoft, with the 360, opened more than (insert number here, I don't have it) USA gap and that means nothing a year into the new console generation.

The one trend we can see without doubt here is this: American gamers are not terribly brand loyal.  The better system (based mostly on perception, though in this case technically as well) will win out in the US.  Playstation, already owns the majority of the rest of the globe, so it makes the XB1's climb back that much steeper.



ethomaz said:

It will be fun to see this holiday sales.

What were the sales of 360 in the Oct-Dec months in 2nd year?



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ethomaz said:

mornelithe said:

See, it's even less than that.  Can we honestly say that 'most' gamers prefer PS4 to Xbox One?  Most gamer's haven't moved on from last gen, so who the heck knows (Yeah, it's splitting hairs, but...trying to be fair here).  What we can say is right now, the PS4 seems to be overwhelmingly more popular, and that NPD supports that perception.  His issues is he's not providing any kind of reference, citation, links etc... to substantiate anyone questioning the veracity of NPD's figures.

You have ~25 million gamers in the current gen... ~12 million choose PS4, 7 million Wii U and 6 million Xbone... I call that most because 12 >>>>>>> 7 > 6.

So most gamers are perfer the PS4.

It is not even an assumption from my part... it is a fact.

Can it change? Of course but right now PS4 continue to be the most choosen console.

Don't get me wrong, overall I agree with you, but until we have 100 million people moved to the current gen, don't you think it's a tad premature to simply make a blanket statement like that?  Right now, most gamer's buying new hardware prefer the PS4, that's absolutely correct.  But, is it fair to say all gamer's prefer PS4 over XB1? (Just trying to be fair...maybe too fair...not sure).