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Vena said:
st0pnsw0p said:
Sony and Microsoft don't have to pay a dime for the vast majority of 3rd party games either, save for the exclusive or timed-exclusive content.


That's every single big release so far in one way or another. Destiny? Advertising parternship (Sony pays $$$), W_D? Same thing. CoD? Advertising partnership (this time M$ pays the $$$). AssCreed? Same thing. The only games exempt from this are small budget release (which are next to nonexistant), Shadows of Mordor, and 1st party exclusives.

M$ and Sony are in a pissing contest over 3rd party titles, where the piss is streams of millions of dollars in advertising rights.

In business, that "pissing contest" is called an investment.

Which doesn't even matter, actually, because the point is, even with Microsoft making a deal regarding CoD, it's still on Playstation.  Even with Sony making a deal regardling Destiny, it's still on Xbox.



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pokoko said:
That entire last paragraph reads as nothing more than excuses and justifications.

If having third-party games on your system means that you aren't "following and imitating" then bravo, Iwata, you're doing wonderfully.

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Nintendo have not had solid 3rd party support since the SNES really. When the N64 was announced and a cartidge based format was decided on, Squaresoft(notoriously pro-Nintendo up to that point) hit the road, Capcom themselves released basically nothing for the N64, same with Namco. This hit Nintendo hard as this meant major Japanese RPGs(save Zelda of course), fighting games(Namco and Capcom) and the arcade ports that were the huge craze at the time(Time Crisis, Point Blank, Xmen VS Street Fighter etc) all went to Sony's console. The massive storage of CDs compared to cartridges also enticed developers over to create mass appeal games like Tomb Raider, Resident Evil(although the second one was ported over very late in the N64s life), Metal Gear Solid etc. These were really ground breaking games that Nintendo missed out on.

The N64 was really Nintendo and Rare doing most of the work. Goldeneye, Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Mario Kart 64, Banjo were all amazing games and broke new ground but when Rare was acquired by Microsoft, it really showed during the Gamecube years where Nintendo had to pick up the slack. I don't believe they ever fully recovered from Rare's departure and from their 90s arrogance(imposing censorship, high royalties, sticking to cartridges in the face of superior technology) and this has not gone away. They were slow to adapt to online play, they were a generation behind in supporting HD gaming, they included an expensive gamepad with the Wii U that is not utilized nearly enough to justify the mandatory expense... I don't have any sympathy for Nintendo. At least Microsoft is willing to change things when public reaction is bad..



bananaking21 said:
Because they dont sell

Nothing more needs to be said.



Vena said:
st0pnsw0p said:
Sony and Microsoft don't have to pay a dime for the vast majority of 3rd party games either, save for the exclusive or timed-exclusive content.


That's every single big release so far in one way or another. Destiny? Advertising parternship (Sony pays $$$), W_D? Same thing. CoD? Advertising partnership (this time M$ pays the $$$). AssCreed? Same thing. The only games exempt from this are small budget release (which are next to nonexistant), Shadows of Mordor, and 1st party exclusives.

M$ and Sony are in a pissing contest over 3rd party titles, where the piss is streams of millions of dollars in advertising rights.

But they don't pay to have those games on their console. That's completely free.



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So they do not want to pay and, with no 3rd party they sell a little less hardware too. I wonder how the math goes and if it is a good idea after all.



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WagnerPaiva said:
So they do not want to pay and, with no 3rd party they sell ALOT less hardware too. I wonder how the math goes and if it is a good idea after all.


Fixed that for you :P



shame they won't use the gazillion bazillion they store in the nintendo cash bank we are often told about,would help putting xbox away



  

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Yes because Microsoft and Sony pays every 3rd party to publish games on SonyBox.

Did it not cross your mind that Nintendo may have burnt many bridges over the years? Sony being on disk all those years ago was not the only reason devs jumped ship. People seem to forget the reason why many games on the snes were not on the megadrive.

Nintendo were the worst to work with when they were at the top. THE WORST. They didnt care about 3rd parties. Nintendo thought 3rd parties meant squat. They were too ful of it back in the day. Thinking because they "saved the industry" with mario as the figurehead, that they owned it.

As we have seen from gen to gen. nobody owns this industry. But the companies still remember the iron fist Nintendo used. They made Microsofts general practices look like child's play.

Companies do whats best for business and supporting the platform that is selling the least is not best for business. With those harsh words I will also say I enjoy nintendo. Everything just is not so black and white.



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