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GribbleGrunger said:
I won't be buying this game. I had to make decisions because of financial reasons anyway and this just helps cut down on that problem.

I lost any respect for them. PS4 has 50% more CUs count than XOne, so they can easy use 1 extra CU or 2 for non graphical porpouse, to have everything better, better graphics, higher Res, physics, AI, system collision, etc than XOne; I hate people who think we are stupid.

I was thinking to boycott those idiots at Ubisoft, but Far Cry 4 says NO.

Sure I won't buy AC Unity.

So many studios working on it and they couldn't get 1080p on PS4 ??!! and they didn't want to create DEBATE on the subject by going for parity... Yer Yes Yes...Microsoft marketing says hi!

MS paid for this, wake up people.



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Nate4Drake said:
GribbleGrunger said:
I won't be buying this game. I had to make decisions because of financial reasons anyway and this just helps cut down on that problem.

I lost any respect for them. PS4 has 50% more CUs count than XOne, so they can easy use 1 extra CU or 2 for non graphical porpouse, to have everything better, better graphics, higher Res, physics, AI, system collision, etc than XOne; I hate people who think we are stupid.

I was thinking to boycott those idiots at Ubisoft, but Far Cry 4 says NO.

Sure I won't buy AC Unity.

So many studios working on it and they couldn't get 1080p on PS4 ??!! and they didn't want to create DEBATE on the subject by going for parity. Yer Yes Yes, Microsoft marketing says hi!

MS paid for this, wake up people.


So much salt in this thread, everyone needs a glass of water.

Game is gimped on ps4= hell breaks loose. Game is gimped on xbox= meh to soft moans.

Shouls just play games and not count pixels you will all be happier.



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bevochan said:

This game is locked at 900p 30 fps "to avoid all the debates and stuff" per senior Ubisoft producer. 

I was on the fence on getting this game, but now I'm not buying this.  The PS4 doesn't compare to a high end gaming PC, but even Grand Theft Auto 5 (I think) is running at least at 1080p and GTA5 open-world is definitely more taxing than AC open world.


Wow, Ubisoft are morons and killing their multiplatform reputation. Not only do they cripple Watchdogs for the PC to stop comparisons, they are now doing it for the PS4? These execs are just flat out stupid.



bigjon said:


its not just the 1080p. it the whole idea of they nerfing a verion for no reason other than parity. it is literally shooting yourself in the foot.

That is what you and a few other XB1 fans are missing. We dont care THAT much about 1080p, we prefer it but its the principle behind the whole thing. And its not "petty". They did the same thing for Watchdogs (although they did not state it was for parity, they said it was because they could not get the performance they wanted at 1080p) and it did fine, but the big difference was WD was a late may release and people really had no other options.

No, you miss the point. We understand why this bothers people. But it won't have a significant impact on sales.

Again, you said the X1 version will probably sell about the same as the PS4 version. That shows you're out of touch with the average consumer. Parity doesn't matter that much, especially if the product is still impressive.

Destiny is the best selling PS4 game and it was likely designed to have parity with the X1 version.



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crissindahouse said:

We should also boycott Destiny, Watch_Dogs, FIFA, CoD and whatever else because all these games are paid to be better (or worse) on one console as on another one but still cost always the same on every console. But oddly enough nobody cares enough to start huge campaigns against it as long as it isn't about resolution lol...

Having had a night to sleep on this, my position has changed. I can understand the anger and the motive to take the 'obvious' action, but if you take into account other factors, the 'obvious' answer doesn't seem so attractive or effective.

Just listen to this and think it through. Don't just instantly reply: If we all boycot games that are gimped on the PS4 then eventually the publishers responsible will make more money from the XB1. That will obviously lead to them focusing more heavily on the XB1 and it will eventually lead to the XB1 becoming the lead platform. In other words, it will only make matters worse.

The solution is to do the complete opposite. PS4 owners should keep buying these games and so keep on pushing up the PS4 install base. The aim of the game (so to speak) is to stretch the lead so wide that it becomes almost impossible for a company to justify the potential loss of revenue. MS would have to compensate them even more to hold onto parity. Once it reaches critical mass, developers will deem it pointless and want to compete once again.

They know that gamers expect improvements from one generation of games to another. They HAVE to improve each time they reiterate on a franchise.



 

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Ubisoft's reasons were silly.

I still haven't finished AC4 and if this is their attitude, it looks like I will be skipping AC:Parity.



GribbleGrunger said:
crissindahouse said:

We should also boycott Destiny, Watch_Dogs, FIFA, CoD and whatever else because all these games are paid to be better (or worse) on one console as on another one but still cost always the same on every console. But oddly enough nobody cares enough to start huge campaigns against it as long as it isn't about resolution lol...

Having had a night to sleep on this, my position has changed. I can understand the anger and the motive to take the 'obvious' action, but if you take into account other factors, the 'obvious' answer doesn't seem so attractive or effective.

Just listen to this and think it through. Don't just instantly reply: If we all boycot games that are gimped on the PS4 then eventually the publishers responsible will make more money from the XB1. That will obviously lead to them focusing more heavily on the XB1 and it will eventually lead to the XB1 becoming the lead platform. In other words, it will only make matters worse.

The solution is to do the complete opposite. PS4 owners should keep buying these games and so keep on pushing up the PS4 install base. The aim of the game (so to speak) is to stretch the lead so wide that it becomes almost impossible for a company to justify the potential loss of revenue. MS would have to compensate them even more to hold onto parity. Once it reaches critical mass, developers will deem it pointless and want to compete once again.

They know that gamers expect improvements from one generation of games to another. They HAVE to improve each time they reiterate on a franchise.


I do agree with You here, we should vote with money. 

Vote with money to make a point visible to certain companies, which keep corrupting the market for one reason only - to achieve monopoly. 



justgames7604 said:
Nate4Drake said:
GribbleGrunger said:
I won't be buying this game. I had to make decisions because of financial reasons anyway and this just helps cut down on that problem.

I lost any respect for them. PS4 has 50% more CUs count than XOne, so they can easy use 1 extra CU or 2 for non graphical porpouse, to have everything better, better graphics, higher Res, physics, AI, system collision, etc than XOne; I hate people who think we are stupid.

I was thinking to boycott those idiots at Ubisoft, but Far Cry 4 says NO.

Sure I won't buy AC Unity.

So many studios working on it and they couldn't get 1080p on PS4 ??!! and they didn't want to create DEBATE on the subject by going for parity. Yer Yes Yes, Microsoft marketing says hi!

MS paid for this, wake up people.


So much salt in this thread, everyone needs a glass of water.

Game is gimped on ps4= hell breaks loose. Game is gimped on xbox= meh to soft moans.

Shouls just play games and not count pixels you will all be happier.


When was the last time a game was gimped on xbox?




Mnementh said:
Arkaign said:


It's not even 'optimization, it's literally just flipping the resolution setting to 1920x1080. If the game runs at 900p on the XB1 Gpu, it mathematically will run at 1080 on ps4 with nothing more than a simple setting change. Hopefully someone leaks the contract on the intentional downgrade for the ps4 version so we can see how much Ubisoft sold out for.

Bwahahahaha - you do believe that, do you? You don't understand a thing about programming.

Of course I believe it. It's been true for 20+ years of PC gaming. Take any CPU-bound game, and as long as you have spare GPU power, you can keep raising the resolution until you reach the limit of your display, or the GPU bottleneck exceeds the CPU bottleneck. Conversely, lowering the resolution in a CPU bound scenario yields zero increase in FPS. There are heaps of examples of this. Take Civ 5 on an Athlon II X3, or Diablo 3 on a Pentium D, then put a solid GPU in the mix. Boom, you can run crazy resolutions to pathetic ones, and the FPS always is pegged low by the CPU.

The ironic thing about your post is that in console situations the absolutely minute influence CPU performance has on limiting graphics performance (draw calls via API), are even less of a factor.

If anyone wants to test, all they have to do is underclock their CPU to a low level, then run a CPU intensive game, and even a moderate GPU will max out at the same CPU-limited FPS at all, or nearly all available resolutions. The CPU single-threaded performance in the PS4 and XB1 is quite terrible honestly. So it's not surprising that something with a lot of AI is CPU limited, but it's ludicrously, absolutely, 110% jack shit to do with resolution.

I've worked for Microsoft, EDS, TI, Raytheon, etc/infinity since before you were probably in diapers anyway. I learned COBOL in the mid 1980s, and that was my third language.

Let me guess, you learned Visual Basic or Java, and think you know programming? :) What a thing to brag about or insult someone over anyway, it's just us nerds, who gives a shit.



Mr Puggsly said:
bigjon said:


its not just the 1080p. it the whole idea of they nerfing a verion for no reason other than parity. it is literally shooting yourself in the foot.

That is what you and a few other XB1 fans are missing. We dont care THAT much about 1080p, we prefer it but its the principle behind the whole thing. And its not "petty". They did the same thing for Watchdogs (although they did not state it was for parity, they said it was because they could not get the performance they wanted at 1080p) and it did fine, but the big difference was WD was a late may release and people really had no other options.

No, you miss the point. We understand why this bothers people. But it won't have a significant impact on sales.

Again, you said the X1 version will probably sell about the same as the PS4 version. That shows you're out of touch with the average consumer. Parity doesn't matter that much, especially if the product is still impressive.

Destiny is the best selling PS4 game and it was likely designed to have parity with the X1 version.

you claimed that the XB1 would still outsell the PS4 (in the US) despite all the issues. I think you under estimate what a general "bad taste" about something can do to sales. The failed unveiling of the XB1 left a bad taste in many peoples mouths and it is still trying to overcome that.



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